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NAACP prevails in Fayette school board district lawsuit

MONDAY, Jan. 9, 2011 3:48 p.m. — The Fayette County Board of Education has thrown in the towel and agreed to settle a federal voting rights lawsuit filed by the Fayette Branch of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) by instituting district voting for each of the board's five posts.

That means that only voters within one of the five districts may vote on the candidates who live within that district.

Still unresolved is the same lawsuit against the Fayette County Board of Commissioners.

The school board meets tonight to ratify the settlement.

More details coming.



S. Lindsey's picture

You made the claims.. Now instead of backing them up you are backtracking trying to assign some nefarious "thoughts" they MIGHT have had.

Face it Kevin the only racist in the crowd are the ones crying wolf all the time... You guys see racism in everything. That is everything not ideology pure for you.

Tell you what... how about making us white folk a list of all the things you seem to think if we say it means it's racist. We will see if Funk and Wagnall can get it in for you.

"Whoever claims the right to redistribute the wealth produced by others is claiming the right to treat human beings as chattel."

-Ayn Rand

kevink's picture

unable to see through the eyes of minority members, can't seem to grasp: Just because YOU think words are not sexist or racist DOES NOT MEAN they aren't. It could be you're just clueless. And, as I've said continuously, I'm alright with that.

You never told me what is wrong with a special interest group like the NAACP working within our legal system to seek what they feel is just. Guess you've been too busy running cover for Santorum's slip of the tongue while ignoring the watermelon field rose garden. I'd ignore that too, if I were you.

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S. Lindsey's picture

person that Obama spoke of?

Kevin you can hop right over your own words if so wish. Sniffle always failed to answer for his remarks as well. It seems to be a common denominator of the Progressive left to drop bombs like the race card then accuse anyone that brings it up as "spinning" or as you say "covering".

I am just curious what book of slur words you are using. As a Son of the South I just don't seem to remember those words. Yes Kevin I remember "Welfare Queen" But I don't seem to remember "Food-stamp" King or "Food-stamp" queen or anything else.

Tell you what... I will get the memo out to the White clubhouse to stop the Food-stamp slur it's been fully exposed. Instead we will float a new one. How about Poverty Pimp... oops sorry can't say pimp that too has racial overtones. How about Poverty President.. Let's see more Whites are in Poverty then blacks....yep that will work.

Good for you Kevin?

btw-I don't think you asked me but what do I think of the NAACP involving themselves? Need I say Race Pimps.. and I mean it in any measure you wish to apply.

You want to know what real racism is today look no further then the NAACP, Black College fund, Black Miss America, Black Congressional Caucus etc...
Any organization that works to elevate a race over another Race or remain exclusionary and divided by race is by any definition Racist.

Just my opinion is all.

I will leave you with the words from Rev.Micheal Yousself on playing the Political Race card you are using... Particularly the "Food-stamp" charge..

"Too many Americans, especially minorities are suffering because of a lack of leadership by the Obama administration...There is nothing racial or racist about wanting to turn around our economy and help those without work find jobs and support their families. I commend him for it," Youssef said in an emailed statement."

Hmmm... some common sense exposed.

"Whoever claims the right to redistribute the wealth produced by others is claiming the right to treat human beings as chattel."

-Ayn Rand

That's a raaaaaaacissssst slur that black people use to describe white people.

[quote]yes even stupid statements,[/quote]

<strong>.and that's the truth!!,</strong.>

They call obumbles the food stamp president , because the use of them has increased during his 3yrs.

Just like they called the little shanty towns that sprung up during Hoovers term "Hoovervilles"

Are you saying that obama is above criticism? Should we give him a free pass? He has increased our national debt, in 3yrs he has run up the credit card double what it took Bush 8yrs to build. There is just no way you can put a positive spin on that.

As far as local politics go there are always places that are worse off, and there are always places that are better to live in.

Have a good day.

kevink's picture

above criticism. but he IS NOT KENYAN. And *conservatives did not call Reagan or Bush "food stamp presidents" even though the numbers of citizens on government assistance increased with them both. Conservatives didn't call McCain a Panamanian, did they? But they love to highlight "Hussein" and the "Kenyan" connection. Must just be coincidence. Again. Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich specifically singled out BLACKS last week when speaking about government assistance. What up with that?! Santorum later said he meant, "Bluhbluh" something, but that's horse crap. He said "Blacks."

My point has always been that the racial angst is misplaced. I asked you and Lindsey what is wrong with a group using legal means to affect a change they feel is needed? I pointed out that most elections in the good ole USA are done by districts, so that people's votes are more localized. Whites, blacks, browns all still have the right to vote here. So why the beef with an organization working within their legal rights? If you are going to be ticked off, should it not be at the board who chose not to go to the mat with this fight? I don't get the anger at those who work legally within the system. And I don't get the blindness to the very racist comments here, suggesting that blacks like me are inherently inferior (Darrylwd). I'd love for he and I to conduct some sort of experiment to see how we mentally stack up. We could attribute all results to race. Anywho, we have all beaten this horse so many times before (sorry. Bad analogy). I wish we'd give it a rest.

Vote Mytmite in 2012!

Kevin, I think most folks are upset because they see the lawsuit was driven primarily by a special interest group ( which can walk away no matter the end results) and not by citizens. I don't think there are any incidents of Black Americans appearing before the FC Board of Education and raising issues about discrimination or non-representation. If you still lived here wouldn't you be concerned about ALL members of the BOE, seeing as they make decisions that effect the whole FC Education System--which obviously has some effect on your boys. What I do know is, that if there were really problems, folks like you and I could sit down and work it out. Hey, be extra cautious on the Active!!

kevink's picture

Coastal? I got a place here back before XMAS. Now split time between the Georgia beaches and the Oklahoma beaches. Athome: Read some of the comments here suggesting blacks are THE racists; black society is inferior; blacks are the angry ones; Again, law suits and lawyers are never a problem here in Fayco if they are helping Republicans. It's so obvious it's funny.

And Lindsey and Skyspy even try to pretend there are no racial overtones to political references between blacks, our President, and food stamps; no racial undercurrent in continuously trying to make Obama an illegitimate Kenyan; Barack the magic negro is the song, is it not? With every racist post by Darryl and PTCavenger, it is incredible to see others on the same thread denying racism aimed at blacks.

You know why at large voting is dying Athomegym? It allows a majority to override the votes of what may be a neighboring minority.

Let's take the Koch brother's cloud factory in Enid Oklahoma. Say the cloud factory is polluting the air of neighboring communities due to cutting corners on emitions controls. And say we have an at large vote as to who will comprise a commission to police the Koch brother's clean-up.

The Koch brothers, having more money than Mitt Romney, could reasonably support members of this commission who are lax on regulation, promising folks in non-effected communities cheap fertilizer.

But there is little chance the Koch brothers could effect the votes of those being poisoned around their cloud factory if voting was by district. The district under the cloud factory would have different concerns than the outlying folks who just want cheap fertilizer.

At large voting would allow the Koch brothers. having more money than even Mitt Romney, to buy all of the votes, being that the majority of voters would not live under the Koch brother's cloud. Far fetched example? I think not?

DISTRICT 7, in the article above, has different concerns than Fulton County at large.

My point is at large voting is going the way of the dinasaur. It is not the NAACP's fault. They were just a special interest group, much like the Chamber of Commerce is a special interest group, fighting for change they wanted to see. It is what it is my friend.

Vote Mytmite in 2012!

S. Lindsey's picture

if a black man criticized Bush was he therefore racist??

Just wondered because using your standards that would be a yes.

"Whoever claims the right to redistribute the wealth produced by others is claiming the right to treat human beings as chattel."

-Ayn Rand

kevink's picture

Is Barack the magic negro a criticism? Is saying he has a deep seeded hatred of whites a valid criticism? Will you contort arguments any way possible to try and cover for racist undertones? Suits me. My guy is the President. I'm good.

Vote Mytmite in 2012!

S. Lindsey's picture

I just don't think it's under every rock like you and DM seem to do.

Was calling Bush Hitler racist if it was said by a black man?

Didn't you criticize Bush as well? Are you therefore racist by your own standards?

"Whoever claims the right to redistribute the wealth produced by others is claiming the right to treat human beings as chattel."

-Ayn Rand

kevink's picture

Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker. You never did tell me why santorum and Gingrich, speaking to majority white audiences in a GOP primary would single our blacks when discussing welfare. Odd seeing that whites are the majority demographic on govt assistance.

Vote Mytmite in 2012!

S. Lindsey's picture

but you have to answer for you.

Is criticism of Bush by a black man racist using your standards?

"Whoever claims the right to redistribute the wealth produced by others is claiming the right to treat human beings as chattel."

-Ayn Rand

Barack Obama: "White folks’ greed runs a world in need"

Obama is a racist.

Nuff said.

JeffC's picture

That's not an Obama quote. It's from Dreams of My Father where Obama is reciting a line from a sermon.

Obama thought so highly of the sermon from his racist, marxist mentor of 20 years that he put it in his book.

Obama is a racist.

S. Lindsey's picture

"MSNBC guest Joy-Ann Reid, who writes for NBCUniversal-owned website, suggested that Mitt Romney was racist for helping a struggling African American woman he met while on the campaign-trail by giving her money from his own wallet. ”It galls me,” Reid started. “I don’t even like to watch it. I felt like it plays into every sort of patronizing stereotype of black people. Oh, here’s this little lady, let me give her 50 bucks.”

The woman, Ruth Williams, said she was praying for divine guidance as to how she would pay a late electric bill when she happened upon the Romney tour bus. After talking to Romney about her troubles, he reportedly gave the woman approximately $50 to help her pay the electric bill.

Rather than consider the instances full-context, however, Reid was outraged by what she considered to be a condescending act."

Getting silly isn't.

"Whoever claims the right to redistribute the wealth produced by others is claiming the right to treat human beings as chattel."

-Ayn Rand

[QUOTE]they see the lawsuit was driven primarily by a special interest group ( which can walk away no matter the end results) and not by citizens.[/QUOTE]

The complaintants in the NAACP are not citizens of Fayete County? Interesting.

I don't think anyone questions the use of legal means to change any policy.

I and many others who were here in the early 90's remember what happened and how it all started. This is exactly how the train wreck started in Clayton county. The naacp needed district voting, because otherwise "their people" couldn't get elected. Many of the people who are in Fayette County moved here from Clayton county. We have already seen this movie and we didn't like how it ended.

It is very hard to believe that the naacp has good intentions this time around. Maybe they have evolved. When we see the T-shirts that say " We took DeKalb, we took East Point, we took Clayton and you are next Fayette" the message is taken as being aggressive. I don't know if the naacp prints or endorses those T-shirts or not. The message is clear . It is worn by angry blacks who want to destroy our community. There is no other way to interpret the message on those T-shirts. They want to destroy a good community. White people who moved here from Clayton aren't the only ones who are disgusted with this message. Many of my black friends from work moved away from Clayton county also as the county deteriorated.

There are no easy answers. Should we trust that the naacp wants to leave our county intact and maybe even improve it? Past history shows us that there are no success stories, just a trail of crime and broken communities. However, there is always a first for everything. Maybe this time they do mean well.

We all have choices to make. There will always be that new "best place" to live. Moving isn't a bad thing it gives us a chance to meet new people, and explore new communities.

I hugged the horses and dogs for you. Consider yourself hugged until I see you. This is a tough issue and we really have beat it to death.

kevink's picture

The race issue always gets ugly here. I don't know why. But we are just talking about one district (and one member potentially) of the school board. Our schools will be just as good in ten years as they are now. You and I both know how well we get along. This school board issue won't change that. We both want lower crime, competent local governance, and strong resale on our real estate investments. Has nothing to do with our skin color. I'm not an NAACP supporter or member, but I do not see them trying to destroy our community. I see them trying to strengthen their political position in our county. But they lose as many cases a they win. I don't see their desire for district voting as unreasonable. And I haven't seen the t-shirt, but would NEVER support its message. Good Sunday to you my friend.

Vote Mytmite in 2012!

Cyclist's picture

This is what Cynthia Tucker had to say about it.

Caution - The Surgeon General has determined that constant blogging is an addiction that can cause a sedentary life style.

Thanks for sharing this!! I honestly feel that this situation would not happen in Fayette County. BUT, at least if we see a 'race-baiting' politician cross the county line, there will be citizens who will protest/protect. I am going to make an attempt to ride around DIstrict 5 just to see what all the uproar is about. The map is a bit confusing to me. Can you give me some 'main road' perimeters of the area? Thanks. (There are many who agree with Cynthia Tucker - that's why we're in Fayette County and not Clayton.)

Cyclist's picture

Don't waste your time as a "drive-by" won't be necessary.

I would like to think that nothing will develop from this. Likewise, I have the same outlook when the county commissioners do the same as the BOE. It's going to happen and we all just better get over it.

BTW, my state representative and senator would rather represent interests in Clayton County. How do I remedy that? Voting doesn't seem to work as I must be a minority. Oh well....

Oh, directions...I'm guessing SR 314 and north to the county line.

Caution - The Surgeon General has determined that constant blogging is an addiction that can cause a sedentary life style.

Just let me know - I'd be happy to go in and demand equal time for you - a non-minority!! LOL

Thanks for the info.

Yes, and it was in the midst of that when Frau Gym retired from the Clayco School System in May 2004!

I grew up in Clayton County. Graduated from Morrow High School in 1981. I know what happened.

Do you really want to blame the Olympics?

Unfotunately, too many minorities feel that would be the Republican Party. Sad. 'them' - wow, we're designated as 'them'. Thanks hsh87. You aren't viewed as 'racist' at all. <STRONG>NOT</STRONG>

Um, David's mom, "them" is referring to the NAACP. Someone cries NAACP and everyone backs down and goes running scared with their tail tucked between their legs. "Them" didn't refer to a race but an organization. But apparently you are a reverse discriminator and take everything anyone says as "racist". I've read some of your other comments. But you see this is the problem I speak about. People like you that take everything and make it a race issue.

I'm learning from you how not to do that! Thanks!

Or better yet, he's offended.

I think his spirit is a little uplifted as he sees the monument to MLK not far from his monument in our capital. The 'experiment' in human relations that Lincoln had some second thoughts about is working. Slavery and Jim Crow did not reflect what the words of our Constitution implied. He may be offended in some instances - but I hope he notes the growth. He didn't expect it to be easy. IMHO

suggarfoot's picture

you said it well and I can't agree more.

Dondol's picture

With all the smack talk that is going on about this sudden capitulation from our elected school board members, you have to ask yourselves, what is really going here. The way I see it is that the white population of our county/country is tired of the way that elected officials cow-tail to the NAACP. What was done to the slaves from Africa was wrong, but its over, has been for years. We didn't do it, our ancestors might have, but we didn't (not all white people owned slaves). Being part American Indian I have to ask, where's the equality for these people. Their/our lands were taken, way of life destroyed and were put on a reservation.
How about the Jewish population, they were enslaved far longer than the Black people of this country but you don't see/hear them pissing and moaning about everything not going their way. They just quietly go to work and make things better for their families. They work the system, they don't ask for Special treatment, they don't expect people to roll over just because of who they are. And they don't have an organization called the NAAJP. I have lived all up and down the East coast and the Midwest and have never ran into the crap that goes on in my home state of Georgia. I was born here, but I won't die here, I'm moving back to one of those States where people don't expect Special treatment because of the color of their skin or what happened 150 years ago.

[quote]We didn't do it, our ancestors might have, but we didn't (not all white people owned slaves). Being part American Indian I have to ask, where's the equality for these people. Their/our lands were taken, way of life destroyed and were put on a reservation[/quote]

Being part Indian - what have you done for your people? The NAACP has petitioned for them - but showing concern for 'them' might have corrupted your 'whiteness'.

The current laws do not address the practice of slavery - but Jim Crow. Where was the equality of that situation? Your people (Indians) tried the violent way to resist 'Manifest Destiny' and were put on reservations. Today, all Americans with equal opportunity, can succeed. Your problem is that you turn a blind eye to those who have - but we have an eye on those insecure Americans like you who can't stand to see that Jim Crow practices are illegal.

I'm glad that there are Georgians - white and black - who are vigilant that Jim Crow practices do not return. MLK taught us how to work the system. Barack, many Mayors of southern cities, Blacks on city councils, etc. proves that the American way works. Run Little Dondol run. No need to look back. No one is chasing you or hopes you come back. Jim Crow practices ended during our lifetime - and you obviously have difficulty with that. Sorry.

kcchiefandy's picture

...not at your response but in the American slavery experience and Indian mistreatment in general. Hindsight being 20-20 and applying today's mores to yesterday's issues and history is simply just laughable. Slavery and mistreatment of conquered people(s) has gone on for THOUSANDS of years. To think that the US, with its remarkable Constitution, that has existed for little more than a micro-second on history's clock and the hypocrisy it entails, should be denigrated for what it DIDN'T do is cause to LOL! It provided the flexibility for those downtrodden folk to overcome the promised equities, and for many it has provided such. The sad (or designed) ignorance that ONLY the black or Indian American suffered such action(s) in the scope of history only allows for capitulations to this idea.

Slavery and such existed in the world FAR before the concept of the US ever existed. In the 'Old World' it was common practice. Only until Great Britain outlawed the practice did anyone in the Western Hemisphere is consider stopping it (there may be other examples, but talking quickly off-the-cuff here). Using skin color, et al, to advance any kind position should be looked at as an ulterior motive in day and age, IMHO.

[quote]Using skin color, et al, to advance any kind position should be looked at as an ulterior motive in day and age,[/quote]

Using skin color, et. al., to deny any kind of position should be looked at as an ulterior motive in this day and age.

kcchiefandy's picture

Good point! Since I was relating this to the current BOE issue, you're belief is people other than those who are white were being denied positions on the Fayette BOE because of the color of their skin?

Many feel that they, regardless of color, were being denied representation for the needs of their particular community - had nothing to do with race - and has been 'table talk' for over three years in Fayetteville. BOE in particular - when students were being reassigned to different schools from the same community.

kcchiefandy's picture

...if you say so. I haven't followed it too closely; just find it unusual the NAACP decided to represent all these unrepresented people, but I don't know; maybe they fight wrong wherever they find it, like the ACLU.

Was never represented at any of the 'talks' of District representation that I attended. It's my understanding that they made it quite clear who they represented. I guess some powers that be thought they could kill the idea if they threw in the 'race' card. It looks like the 'race' card,(equal representation) however, won. Don't have children enrolled in FC schools - but I do believe in the social advantages of neighborhood schools - and not having small neighborhoods divided by persons who don't live in the neighborhood.

kcchiefandy's picture've lost me. The NAACP was never represented at any 'talks' of BOE District representation? Were they supposed to be? They (who?) made it clear who they represented? Who was that? What powers-that-be tried to kill the idea w/ a race card? So representation is required to be by race? Is that a state law? You've really confused me. Can you clarify, please?

Members of different communities in an informal gathering three years or so ago when the BOE was considering dividing community attendance areas were discussing 'who' was representing them on the BOE. DIfferent communities - not based on race, but on interest on the attendance area of their students - had a representative speak for them at a BOE meeting. AND I'M ACCUSED OF SEEING EVERYTHING USING THE 'RACE CARD'. Legally,someone may have seen that the most effective way of addressing this situation was to rely on the law of equal opportunity as stated in the VRA. I would guess that at least two interested parts of Fayette County used their knowledge as to how to get around Dirtrictwide voting . Now its up to the integrated communities to see that this is not used to seat an unwanted politician on the Board who may not have the qualifications of Presberg - if he runs for the District 5 office.

Help! 48% of minorities in Fayaette County who live in a certain area may vote as if they are in Clayton County. . and take away 'white power'. When will this craziness stop? It's almost as if the concept of one drop of black taints the entire community. What a disrepectful attitude to those 'blacks' in this community who have been here and been contributing citizens for well over 20 years. I'm assured that those who believe in this racist manner are in a minority today. I hope so. This attitude ruins what is a great American community. Are you still lost?

kcchiefandy's picture

...and thanks for the backround on the issue. I still don't see why the NAACP is involved if this is such a 'colorless' issue and all kinds of different ethnic groups in that area want this. Did the citizens of this area approach the NAACP and ask them to do this?

[quote]Did the citizens of this area approach the NAACP and ask them to do this?[/quote]

I have no idea.

kcchiefandy's picture did the NAACP come to represent this collective group, or did they insert themselves into this fray?

Cute question - but you won't pass the bar with that kind of questioning. The NAACP represented themselves. I think that was clear in their complaint. Did you read it? I think the complainants are listed. David's Mom is not on the list.

kcchiefandy's picture

...about such things and how they work/are approached; I've never been involved with this kind of action. Legally, I've had a few speeding tickets, so I'm at a loss, generally, when it comes to legal issues/events - I'll have to hire a lawyer to write my questions, I guess! I mentioned I haven't followed this at all. Sometimes simple questions are the hardest to truthfully answer.

S. Lindsey's picture

Lower per capita wages.

Lower per capita Healthcare.

Lower per capita Home prices.

Lower per capita Education stats.

Lower per capita Graduation rates.

Higher per capita Crime states.

Higher per capita drug usage.

Higher per capita poverty rates.

Yep the NAACP has done a swell job there. I guess we are next.

"Whoever claims the right to redistribute the wealth produced by others is claiming the right to treat human beings as chattel."

-Ayn Rand

Your facts are dead on but some people don't want to hear the truth (DAVID'S MOM). Please excuse her because she is a educated black and must be heard. She claims to be from California , a left coast Liberal. She knows exactly how to run Fayette County with her MOREHOUSE Education that she proudly parades. She knows all the prominent blacks personally like BILL COSBY, MLK,SPIKE LEE, JIM BROWN,OBAMA ect. but, doesn't claim the thugs from the newspaper headlines. Fayette will be just fine under her guidance just like Clayton and Fulton. She is quick to play the race card and call all white people racist if we don't share her point of view. Nothing you can say will appease her or her boyfriend HUTCH. Its obvious some people don't have jobs , because they live on the internet all day.(david's mom) Enjoy your HOLIDAY and Parade on Monday ,while I work to pay taxes to support those who won't. MY break time is over and must go back to work.

Debating the deaf is a mute point.


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