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NAACP prevails in Fayette school board district lawsuit

MONDAY, Jan. 9, 2011 3:48 p.m. — The Fayette County Board of Education has thrown in the towel and agreed to settle a federal voting rights lawsuit filed by the Fayette Branch of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) by instituting district voting for each of the board's five posts.

That means that only voters within one of the five districts may vote on the candidates who live within that district.

Still unresolved is the same lawsuit against the Fayette County Board of Commissioners.

The school board meets tonight to ratify the settlement.

More details coming.

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The more you share, the more your ignorance shows. Morehouse is a college/unitversity for MEN! The MLK day is day of service - that many blacks and whites observe by volunteering in their respective communities throughout the country. I no more claim the black criminals than you claim relationship with white criminals. (or do you?) All people and all southerners are not racist - and that I have found out since living here for seven years. . . .yet you and your insecure cohorts pop up to justify your antiquated mores.

I should have counted to 150 before answering this nonsense. I'm through. It's a beautiful day!

[QUOTE]Lower per capita wages.

Lower per capita Healthcare.

Lower per capita Home prices.

Lower per capita Education stats.

Lower per capita Graduation rates.[/QUOTE]

Do you see a correlation here between the above and higher crime rate? Skin color has nothing to do with it. When you eliminate the poor, uneducated, skill-less white people from certain areas of this country - share your technique and success with the NAACP - I'm sure they will appreciate your research and help!

S. Lindsey's picture

is clear. When you take a population, feed it, house it, and care for it.. it forgets how to do so on it's own. Much like domesticated Dogs BUT the problem are Humans are never to be just content with their station. That lack of dignity and lack of contentment breeds resentment which in turn breeds the normal issues that we all suffer from. Self-Esteem or the lack thereof.

DM I am going to step out on a limb and go ahead and put it out there. It needs to be said. The problem with the Black community is not White people holding them down... it is you and those like you who constantly excuse poor decisions and poor behavior as racism.

Drugs, murder, rapes, burglary, robberies, lack of an education, lack of motivation all are just the symptoms of the Entitlement disease and the belief that anything the black community does they are not responsible for it. It's racism and bigotry and it's not their fault.

DM you guys need to clean up your own backyard before you worry about your neighbors.

btw- pull the stats for Clayton county BEFORE the NAACP takeover and after. Numbers don't lie DM people do.

"Whoever claims the right to redistribute the wealth produced by others is claiming the right to treat human beings as chattel."

-Ayn Rand

[quote]DM I am going to step out on a limb and go ahead and put it out there. It needs to be said. The problem with the Black community is not White people holding them down... it is you and those like you who constantly excuse poor decisions and poor behavior as racism.[/quote]

You are way out of line. . .and about to fall off that limb. But please do us all a favor and share with us how you and others have solved these problems in the 'white' community - (yes the problems also exist in the 'whtie' community) and although I have never blamed the 'white' community for the problems in the 'black' community - your intelligence and guidance in helping us solve these problems will be much appreciated.

S. Lindsey's picture

You and yours blame Whites for all of your issues.

Now don't get me wrong some Whites blame blacks as well for their failures. You see DM once as a people we all start to look in the mirror and place the blame where it belongs.. a lot of problems might just be addressed.

However keep blaming someone else DM for all of the Communities issues. It has worked so well.

"Whoever claims the right to redistribute the wealth produced by others is claiming the right to treat human beings as chattel."

-Ayn Rand

is the little group who started the lawsuit because they have not been able to get one of "their people" elected. ( their words, not mine) The naacp made this an issue about color and race. If they didn't have a lawyer at any of these meetings they are wasting your membership fees.

OK.

Robert W. Morgan's picture

I would never consider the reservation approach for people based upon skin color, religion or ethnicity, BUT it makes sense to create reservations for those unfortunates in the world, the ones that did not win life's lottery, the ones who were forced to have babies out of wedlock, the ones who were forced into a life cycle of joblessness or crime, even those who were forced to sign those jumbo mortgages they couldn't afford.

So, if you are on food stamps, taking (yes it is taking) welfare or living in housing subsidized by the rest of us, in jail for drug-related crimes or living on the street annoying the hoi polloi - you get rounded up and put on a reservation where you get 3 hots and a cot, free schooling for your kids, but that is all. Free to come and go, but you have to eat and sleep there. Don't want to work - fine.
Want to work? Then you get better housing, better food, free healthcare, free child care, a big screen tv and minimum wage while training - merit raises only after that. Plenty of jobs right there on the reservation - health care workers, child care givers, food service, recreation, school teachers, police, fire, growing vegetables, raising livestock, picking fruit, etc. Ex-homebuilders will be living here and they can build apartments, barracks and single family homes for the supervisors and administrators. No taxes, no fees for anyone on the reservation.

How do we pay for it? Use all the money we spend on food stamps, welfare, section 8 housing, prisons, war on drugs, Dept. of Education, EPA and some others and use that money. Social Security and Medicare too. There will be a retirement village on each reservation - mostly in the unused schools.
Then each working American outside the reservation is taxed 10% of what he earns. 10% period. No deductions, no tables, no caps, no sliding scales, no tax returns - just 10% of everything taken when you earn it. If 2/3 of us are outside and 1/3 inside - it will work. This is Romney's secret plan, This is why the Dems are so afraid of him and why they keep it up with the Bain thing and the Mormon thing. Why? You lose your right to vote if you live on the reservation.

Where do we put them? Unused military bases of course. Obama will shrink the military to next to nothing in his second term - of course the ex-military should live there on the reservations and be the police force and jailers for those that get out of line and talk loudly after curfew or litter.

Good idea, huh? I mean it is the government's obligation to provide for the less fortunate among us, isn't it? So if we are going to do it - let's do it efficiently and on a large scale. Giving food stamps out to everyone allows each person to decide what to buy and eat. Some get lobster, steak and lottery tickets. Even beer and wine. That's not good. These people need to be cared for by government dieticians who will be sure they eat healthy. Lots of vegetables.

Live free or die!

Lock 'em up - and throw away the key!! That's the answer!!! But doesn't save any money - or improve anything really. Sounds like a replica of Hitler's solution.

The Wedge's picture

Morgan isn't. "Free to come and go as they please", doesn't sound like being locked up. What has happened to our (or specifically your) ability to actually read, understand, and argue true points instead of strawmen that we create to destroy? In all honesty, where do you think retirement funding is heading? It is going to turn into government housing as your form of income. We will not have the money to do anything else.

Robert W. Morgan's picture

to make a point. Doesn't hold up, however since she never got past the basic premise that it is the government's responsibility to house and feed the less fortunate. But since we seem to be doing it now, albeit on a limited and fragmented basis, it must be government's responsibility. So, let's be efficient about it - do the same thing, care for more people and try to educate the next generation in the reservation schools so they can be productive members of society. OR, we can just keep things the way they are now and keep spending on half-measure do-gooder programs that just encourage people (and their children and grandchildren) to do nothing.

No DM, these less fortunate resevation-dwellers would not be locked up, they would be free to come and go as they please. It is just that half-measures like food stamps and Section 8 housing would no longer be available, but this is better. Instead of getting part of your groceries paid for or part of your housing and utilities paid for - on the reservation it is all provided - 100% . No forms to fill out, no photo ID, no nothing. Just consider it a more efficient centralized delivery system for the services that the less fortunate are entitled to.

After all this is a perfect Dem dream scenario. More government is better. They want to control health care, so why not control what we eat and drink, where we live and what we learn in school, what we do for a living and for how much? I mean after a certain point we have made enough money - isn't that right? Huh?

Live free or die!

[quote]After all this is a perfect Dem dream scenario. More government is better.[/quote]

Let's stop pigeon-holing the mess we're in as the fault of the dream or lake of vision of one party. What about the non-involvement of our citizens? What about legislation according to corporate/lobbyist direction? No where do I see it written that it is the governments responsibility to house and feed the less fortunate - BUT Bush (one) tried the thousand lights (volunteers) - and that didn't work. We have organizations (private) that try to accommodate the less fortunate, etc. But with today's economy, unless you have saved up at least three months of monthly expenses, you could be on the welfare role. In this country, our government should be able to assist those who are out of work, retrain those who need further education to find new jobs, feed those who temporally find themselves unable to feed their families - WITH OUT ROUNDING THEM UP AND PUTTING THEM ON A RESERVATION! Don't ya think? I worked hard with Republicans and Democrats revamping a welfare system that didn't work - a system that put generations of families on the welfare roles. It still is not perfect - and does not accommodate our current unemployed - who are not all DEADBEATS! Putting people on a 'reservation' is another form of segregation - and offering no hope of joining the rest of society at any time. When you get tired of feeding them - or run out of money to feed them - what is your solution?

[quote]After all this is a perfect Dem dream scenario. More government is better. They want to control health care, so why not control what we eat and drink, where we live and what we learn in school, what we do for a living and for how much? I mean after a certain point we have made enough money - isn't that right? Huh?[/quote]

One needing health care is necessary when unfortunately a person contacts some disease - OR has not taken care of his/her body through sensible eating, exercise, etc. Health care would not be so expensive if we had a healthier populace. Health care would not be so expensive if we practiced good preventative health care. But Americans as a whole don't! I see no problem with government trying to get us back on track so that we don't spend so much on health care. No one is forcing anyone to eat correctly - but some regulation is needed on our food producers so that we are not eating preservatives that cause poor health, etc. (Good for the organic business) If more of us used common sense, government could spend more on providing a first class education, innovative ideas for producing products that could be sold to the rest of the world, security, etc., etc. etc., IMHO. Some of the solutions offered - I'm sure in jest , don't require a thoughtful answer. NO MORE RESERVATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES. (Unless the Casinos are truly first class!)

Robert W. Morgan's picture

We have lots of money to spend on entitlement programs thanks to the alleged expanding economy, the lower unemployment rate and the wealth of those at the top of the economic ladder. If we just tax the top earners some more we can do more of the same spending on those that are "entitled" to the money taken from those who have won life's lottery - meaning what exactly? Tax and spend. Tax and spend, You really believe that works, girl?

And back to original question - Is it the government's responsibility to take care of the less fortunate? If yes - read above above about my solution which is reservations for the less fortunate; if not - never mind.

Of course if you got a better idea, please set it forth.

Try to twist George Bush into your answer pretzel.

Live free or die!

[quote]No where do I see it written that it is the governments responsibility to house and feed the less fortunate - BUT Bush (one) tried the thousand lights (volunteers) - and that didn't work. We have organizations (private) that try to accommodate the less fortunate, etc. But with today's economy, unless you have saved up at least three months of monthly expenses, you could be on the welfare role.[/quote]

Sorry you missed my answer. Never mind. BUSH (one)=Papa Bush not W

[quote]If more of us used common sense, government could spend more on providing a first class education, innovative ideas for producing products that could be sold to the rest of the world, security, etc., etc. etc., IMHO. Some of the solutions offered - I'm sure in jest , don't require a thoughtful answer. NO MORE RESERVATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES. (Unless the Casinos are truly first class!)[/quote]

We're not doing too great in doing the above for ourselves - so government (the people collectively) can help out.. . . . . security is important - right?

Robert W. Morgan's picture

but common sense tells me what we have now - welfare, food stamps, unemployment benefits with no serious incentive or requirement to look for work (meaning any work at all) and subsidies for housing and having children does not make things better. It probably helps politicians get votes, but as far as solving the real problem - Naww.

Reservations seem extreme, but you can't just let people pick and choose from a menu of federal and state handouts (and that's what they are) and expect behavior to change. And changing behavior is what is needed. What the politicians did to the black family unit was disgraceful, but more importantly it is now in the third generation of proof positive that it doesn't work and it is not getting any better. That's not to say the only people partaking of the benefits are black, but you have to admit the black family unit and I daresay the entire black community was much stronger and cohesive before Johnson's Great Society nonsense. I blame the politicians that come up with this stuff much more than I do the people who are receiving benefits.

Live free or die!

Gort's picture

police for anyone that happens to be down on their luck sounds like apartheid and would be an American embarrassment if it ever came to be.

What next, “Soylent Green” manufacturing plants to replace Medicare?

Just for the sake of argument, once someone gets put on the “reservation” how does one get out?

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

Robert W. Morgan's picture

They are certainly not internment camps because people can leave any time they want. And there is no racial or ethnic component to this plan. It is simply a centralized delivery service for government handouts run by the government in specific locations. If you want the government to feed and house you, you simply go to a reservation of your choosing. Reservations that are self-contained and self-supporting (except for healthy injections of government money) will help all involved. They satisfy the unfortunate ones immediate food and shelter needs and training and education of the next generation promises them a brighter future. No doubt an experienced liberal government worker or party hack can come up with a better name than reservation or shelter - they are so good at renaming things to make them sound better than they really are, so that problem will take care of itself.

As far as getting off the reservation - simple. When you don't need the 3 hots and a cot anymore - just leave. Naturally you would need a job and a place to stay on the outside, but that is the point of training and education and even working for minimum wage inside. And best of all, when you leave and are self-sufficient, you get your right to vote back.

This is simply one idea. There are probably other solutions - offer one up. It is hard to create, easy to critique.

I don't think that just keep on doing the same thing and increasing the benefit amounts and stretching out the time frame indefinitely is helping. It is certainly costly and there will be a time when it all implodes and then there will be a huge revolt among those that expect their handouts. Be better to plan ahead and avoid all that unpleasantness.

Live free or die!

Gort's picture

That’s a different story! If I believed what some people say in ‘The Citizen’ we already have, (ahem,) the ‘Shelters’ you describe, (absent the military police.) They call it Clayton County, and possibly District 5 in Fayette County?

Now that you have ‘em all rounded up for your convenience, SLindsey and the GOP can teach them all how to fish, and everything will work out just swell now, won’t it?

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

Robert W. Morgan's picture

So many issues, so little time. Please try and focus.

I understand the liberal mindset, but introducing alcohol into it does not help.

Please just go back to chanting about "fairness" and "equality" and then we will get along.

Live free or die!

Will the mentally & physically challenge be sent to the proposed National Benefits camp?

Gort's picture

exhausts his vocabulary of ‘buzz words’ all he got left is name calling and the usual, “I know all about you blah, blah, blah, blah…

Round people up in camps so its convenient? Gee whiz, like nothing could ever go wrong with that.

I do still wonder if RWM would make it a mandate like the ‘Obama Cares, (with Romney’s help,) Health Insurance” law?

Heh, heh, heh!

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

Robert W. Morgan's picture

One simply has to go to one of the camps to receive the benefits rather than a check in the mail. The only people who will be "rounded up" would be the homeless street people, usually the week before the Super Bowl or the Republican Convention.

Note to those that will oversee this program: Be sure public transportation is in place so the less fortunate can easily travel to their camp. Of course anyone driving to camp in a fancy car would have to allow the car to be put in a common car rental pool for the use of all camp residents - fair is fair. Priority on using these cars would be given to those who are commuting to work. And carpooling is mandatory.

Live free or die!

Gort's picture

rounded up.

The time is now for the GOP and SLindsey to teach them how to fish.

Let us know when you start so we can measure your progress? 8 - )

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

One thing you are not counting is the money spent for the physically & mentally challenged individuals:
[quote]While disabled people can have economic issues as well, their care is specialized and handled mostly by family and private insurance[/quote]
that is not true most are cared for by the Gov't. Remember the norm is the parents die's before the child, what happens to that person when no one is alive to care for them.

Robert- We all are aware that the majority of the Fed budget is benefit programs. What % of the people on our dime are truley needing it and what is the % of fraud? We can reduce the headcount in the camp if we solve the fraud issue?

Robert W. Morgan's picture

Not sure how that would work. The National Benefits Camp (love the name) is mainly there to streamline the benefit process for the economic less fortunate. While disabled people can have economic issues as well, their care is specialized and handled mostly by family and private insurance. I know some public dollars are involved as well, so I really don't know how to handle that. Guess we will need to convene a blue ribbon panel to study the issue.

NBC ( I think we can start using those initials since the TV network of the same name is sliding into oblivion) is designed for people who need help on a temporary basis. The goal is to eventually get everyone trained and working and off the dole. Disabled people can't cure their condition by training or willpower. And of course the staff needed to work with these people is highly specialized and expensive and permanent. Oh what the heck, just let them in. It is only government money. Right? Might even create some more government jobs. And we can use Special Olympics money as well. What about Jerry Lewis? Could he help fundraise?

Live free or die!

[quote]welfare, food stamps, unemployment benefits with no serious incentive or requirement to look for work [/quote]

Most citizens in FC do not come in contact with too many people who are receiving 'welfare' - but they are here, and some of us do come in contact with them. (They look and act just like everyone else - and come in all different colors) Today's welfare system has improved from the one you mention - and there is incentive to work - or you lose your benefits after a certain period. In today's economy, there are well-educated, hard working individuals who have been earnestly looking for work over a year! I sense that you have a good and decent heart - but your view of what is happening in this country and in FC is just not based on reality. I have met teachers whose husbands have been out of work - and they are desperately trying to maintain their living standard on a teachers salary - when the husband made much more. They are on some type of welfare. They just aren't as obvious - and their skin color is 'white'.

[quote]That's not to say the only people partaking of the benefits are black, but you have to admit the black family unit and I daresay the entire black community was much stronger and cohesive before Johnson's Great Society nonsense. I blame the politicians that come up with this stuff much more than I do the people who are receiving benefits.[/quote]

I won't say that at all! But my perspective is from one who is part of the 'black' community - and has not only seen the change in the 'black' community since Johnson's Great Society - but has benefitted from those 'changes'.
I benefitted from the 'positive' changes - and there were many. The nation has suffered from the changes that can't be blamed on Johnson's Great Society. (The drug culture that hit our cities during and after Viet Nam; the change in mores as seen in our media; the lack of parenting in black and white homes; etc. etc., etc.) There seems to be an attitude of blaming the failure of our living up to our words in our Constitution and Declaration of Independence on the changing of Jim Crow laws - and treating 'blacks' as American citizens. IMHO

The Wedge's picture

That the number one problem with parents these days is illegitimacy and the poverty that inveritably follows it. Although all demographics have seen a rise throughout the twentieth century, the black community sees an illegitimacy rate above 70%. All other demographics averaged together is around 33%. Immigrants are now more likely to have out of wedlock births than natives now. The black illegitimacy rate (IR) rose sharply in the 1960's. Although correlation does not necessarily mean causation, can you see that perhaps the Great Society catastrophically raised the IR for blacks and has increased the IR for all demographics? Many good things happened in the 1960's, but LBJ's Great Society kick started our collective families' decline.

[quote]That the number one problem with parents these days is illegitimacy and the poverty that inveritably follows it[/quote]

Our younger generation is not blind. They call us hypocrites - and for good reason. Their heroes (movie/sports stars) are glamorized when men and women don't marry - have children, etc. We castigate gays and lesbians because they want to marry. We promote for leadership men who have divorced, cheated, etc. and vilify a leader who so far has one wife - and as of today - no marital scandal. IMO, the number one problem is not illegitimacy - but the cause of illegitimacy. Lack of home training, lack of parent involvement, lack of community morals. By the way, not every young girl who chooses to have her baby out of wedlock lacks support from home and community - but the records still record that child as illegitimate - and a negative. Statistics, as sad as they are, don't always reflect the 'true' picture.
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[quote]Lock 'em up - and throw away the key!! That's the answer!!! [/quote]

The Wedge's picture

I answer sarcasm with sarcasm. Once again though, you didn't read my entire paragraph and didn't understand the point. Oh well. Don Quixote has tried

Don Quixote to the rescue. I come on line during a 'break' time to relax - and really don't do the comprehensive reading that your talent requires!! LOL Thanks!

Robert W. Morgan's picture

I think I am making good points about the National Benefits Camps (or Reservations) and they keep diverting from the real issues and keep making things up that they attack and just generally act like liberal phonies.

What can I do to get them on my side and see the value of what I am proposing? I am really a nice person, liberal college graduate, 130+ IQ, good hygiene, trimmed nose hairs, straight teeth, 2 nice kids, I have never owned slaves (nor advocated that) and I do have a cousin who supports gay marriage. So can I get a break here?

Live free or die!

The Wedge's picture

I am at a loss to explain the stream of thought for both DM and Gort in your exchange. It appears that they are unwilling to change the status quo, even if the status quo is untenable. Therefore, they will vilify your positions without seeing any of its merits. So let's look at what government will have to deliver in the future. In a nutshell- 3 hots and a cot, free healthcare, free childcare, and free schooling for the little ones. Currently, we are providing this in some form at some level in a very costly and inefficient way. Eventually (and even sooner), we will run out of money or people willing to load us money. At that point, we will have to go to depot style delivery of services. I see that with retirement as well. I see the nationalization of private retirement savings, so that you can be "fully participative" in the national program. The small carrot and large stick. We are not terrribly far from it.

[quote] unless you have saved up at least three months of monthly expenses, you could be on the welfare role. In this country, our government should be able to assist those who are out of work, retrain those who need further education to find new jobs, feed those who temporally find themselves unable to feed their families - WITH OUT ROUNDING THEM UP AND PUTTING THEM ON A RESERVATION! Don't ya think?[/quote]

You just don't like my answer.

Robert W. Morgan's picture

3 months is pretty light for savings, but who really knows. Other than that, you are 100% correct ".... our government SHOULD be able to assist..., etc.
Yep, they SHOULD be able to assist without the voluntary reservation idea. But sadly the facts are that while the government should be able to help - it has not.
I mean, I should be able to throw a baseball 100 mph and earn big bucks in the major leagues, but I can't. So what should I do now - keep throwing at 35mph and hope for improvement - or try something else?

So how long do we keep our head in the sand on this without taking remedial action? I predict 2 or 3 more years of this horrible entitlement system and one day we wake up and there are no benefits at all - no social security, no medicare, no welfare, no food stamps and those that have been relying on those things will revolt. Then they will march on Washington, nothing will get done until finally someone from the government sets up tents and field kitchens and there's your first reservation (or camp). This actually happened in the 1930's when Hoover was President and the protesters were WWI vets looking for their bonus, which had been promised for 1946, but the marchers wanted it NOW, because times were tough.

Be good if we could learn something from history.

Live free or die!

[quote]I predict 2 or 3 more years of this horrible entitlement system and one day we wake up and there are no benefits at all - no social security, no medicare, no welfare, no food stamps and those that have been relying on those things will revolt. Then they will march on Washington, nothing will get done until finally someone from the government sets up tents and field kitchens and there's your first reservation (or camp)[/quote]

After WWII, the GI Bill - vets received assistance with education; housing; etc. Was that an entitlement? Talk to me after you look at the Welfare rules, etc. . Under normal circumstances, an individual has to validate that they are looking for work - or they are cut off. This had to be extended because the job creators are not providing jobs to American citizens (to keep cost down); under normal circumstances, the government does provide assistance. IMO, the angst here is the assistance appears to be going only to 'black' people. Careful constructors of public opinion have convinced a hurting middle class population that their money is only helping people who refuse to work and have made a living off of 'welfare'. . . .and all of these people are black people supported in cause by the NAACP. A too high percentage of the black population is on welfare. (They don't live in Fayette County) The majority of Americans on welfare are 'white'. We are not going to change one another's perception of this problem. Since the '60's , I have seen great progress - and I'm not going to let the 'whiners' spoil progress. I received a first class education, was able to obtain my goals in my country, raised my family, have a little left over to assist others as my religion dictates, etc., etc., etc. Life is good - could be better - and I will continue to help where I can. Good leaders, not necessarily politicians, can work out a solution where assistance can be provided to Americans who need help.. . .after all we're Americans!!

Mike King's picture

You are correct in that great progress has been made by individuals who benefited from government programs of one type or another. What you seem to omit is that those that benefited chose to pull themselves up and become self sustaining members of our culture. Those who chose to remain dependent are caught in a spiral that leaders at all levels have allowed to regenerate.

Hunger is a much stronger motivator than pride.

Just a reminder - those who pulled themselves up by their boot straps had boots. Too many in our country, regardless of DNA don't.

Mike King's picture

All of us begin life naked, crying, and unable to sustain ourselves. It is when we are able to decide for ourselves that we select our paths.

Some must hit the ultimate bottom prior to beginning their climb, perhaps you know one or two. Again, I believe you fail to see the difference between a hand out and a helping hand.

Regardless of hand outs/helping hands - how many closed doors did you encounter? Doors opened for me in the 60's. I believe you fail to take that as a serious hinderance - although MANY went around those closed doors and achieved anyway. It is just too sad that persons can't make themselves 'walk in another's shoes' before they have solutions to problems. Not making any excuses for the culture of poverty - but it is not 'race selective'. Wouldln't it be wonderful if Americans really chose to solve the poverty problem which would encompass all Americans - especially childen?

Mike King's picture

You simply don't get it. Doors are closed to all but a scant few of us. Unless you win the lottery, inherit a fortune from a rich uncle, or use personal attributes like Anna Nicole Smith successful Americans from all walks of life are personally responsible for their success. The inverse is also true, if one decides to ride the entitlement program their entire lives, they are certainly free to do so. Surely you don't believe that one has to be a drug addict to recognize a dependency problem('walk in another's shoes' before they have solutions to problems).

Life simply isn't fair, get over it.

BTW, instead of going around doors I preferred find the means to break them down.

[quote]BTW, instead of going around doors I preferred find the means to break them down.[/quote]

Wonderful! Did you have to overcome the fear of being lynched; raped; spit on etc., while in the process of breaking down those doors? Did you have to 'overcome' the sign "No Whites Allowed" in order to enter into some of those doors. You get over it - and then you can join the Americans who are working to make sure that doors are not closed to others because of sex and/or race. There is still work to do - although much progress has been made. To continue to whine because of what seems 'unfair' is a waste of time - it's time to acknowledge the progress and move on Mr. King. There will always be those who whine and make excuses for their lack of success. Surely you're not one of those. Some of those doors are still closed to those who appear 'different'. The role models are those who chose to break doors down using non-violence and love and understanding. . . not by saying GET OVER IT!! <cite>LEARN FROM IT - AND MOVE ON..</cite>

Mike King's picture

Never worried much about being lynched, but I have been spit upon, literally. You? I thought so.

I have moved on, you seem to be mired in the past.

Not mired in the past - just want to celebrate the progress and looking forward to the future! Difficult to measure progress if you forget the starting point!

take the hand-out instead of the hand up. I personally know someone (white) who stayed on unemployment as long as it was being dished out. She didn't even have to go to the office to fill out paperwork indicating she had been looking for a job-just got on line and filled out the paperwork. She never went to any of the places she indicated she had contacted re: employment and there were no checks and balances. She told me the unemployment office never checked and so she just put down whatever business she could think of for that period. Every time the unemployment was to run out she would say she had to start looking for a job--then they would extend again and she would say there was no reason to look for work when she could draw unemployment--during this time she got help with her gas and electric bill as well as phone bill, also her mortgage payment. I asked her if she had no pride, if she did not want to be self-sufficient and her reply was that everyone did it and she and her family had paid taxes so she was entitled. This is a white young grandmother, able to work, living off the system. She now gets food stamps and whatever assistance she can get--still not looking for work. I no longer make an effort to help her or contact her--a waste of my time.

Thanks for sharing that. (I may have seen her in the grocery store!) MLK was bringing citizens together by fighting the war on poverty. There were students of all colors attending workshops on how to teach their fellow man to fish. The Urban League is doing a wonderful job - they just aren't reaching enough of our citizens with their job training programs. After this country's financial fiasco - and the advancement of the techy industry - we have a lot of re-training to do to again become the industrial giant in the world. (I read somewhere that it takes a government agency almost 3 months to identify fraud. That needs to improve!!!)

S. Lindsey's picture

Government run Healthcare, Government run Welfare, Government run Unions, Government run businesses.. Entitlements far beyond all reason.. Spending far beyond means.

Results all to predictable. Riots in the streets by those that hand their handouts taken.

We are seeing America's future.

"Whoever claims the right to redistribute the wealth produced by others is claiming the right to treat human beings as chattel."

-Ayn Rand

It must be those whining blacks in Greece, Ireland, etc. who are causing all these problems and blaming 'white' people. Thanks for sharing.

S. Lindsey's picture

It's beneath you.

"Whoever claims the right to redistribute the wealth produced by others is claiming the right to treat human beings as chattel."

-Ayn Rand

Robert W. Morgan's picture

I start out being very clear that curbing entitlements has nothing to with race or ethnicity and all I get back is "black" and "internment camps". You really can't reason with a mindset like that.

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