N. Fayetteville SunTrust bank robbed

N. Fayetteville SunTrust bank robbed

Cops looking for maroon older model vehicle; no shots fired

Fayetteville Police are investigating a bank robbery that occurred just before 2:30 this afternoon at the SunTrust bank near the Fayette Pavilion off Ga. Highway 85 and Ellis Road.

For a gallery of bank robber photos, click here.

A gunman entered the bank with a handgun and left in what was believed to be an older model maroon Chevy Impala with dark-tinted windows, according to initial police radio accounts of the scene.

The gunman was described as a light-skinned black male wearing a “wife beater” T-shirt, about 5’8” tall, about 150 pounds, wearing a yellow construction helmet with a red bandanna underneath. He left the scene with another suspect in the vehicle, but the second suspect’s description was not immediately available.

No injuries were reported at the scene, police said.

Police have searched the parking lots at the Pavilion in an effort to locate the suspects. They also are investigating if a crash just north of the bank on Hwy. 85 might be related to the bank robbery, as one of the suspects took off from the wreck on foot but was arrested shortly thereafter.

This is the second bank robbery in Fayetteville within a week. The RBC Centura Bank on Ga. Highway 314 north was hit by a crew of three armed gunmen July 8 just after 10 a.m., and they got away in a blue sport utility vehicle, police said.

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Crime can happen anywhere

and crimes can be committed by anyone. Not all of the crime in our beloved Fayette County is committed by African Americans....never have been and never will be as lawlessness knows no skin color. For those who don't remember any "white" crime in the county....have you forgotten that it was a white man who robbed the Florist Shop on Hwy 85 near Hwy 92 S and the Rite Aid on Hwy 54 and Gingercake in March after having robbed a Rite Aid in Henry County. How about the home burglary that took place last week in the Lakemont subdivision and was reported in this paper. Two of the three perpetrators were white and one lived in the subdivision that they were accused of burglarizing! No outsiders here. People, all races, gender, religion, political affiliation, etc. have the propensity to commit crimes. Let's ban together to assist the police in keeping crime to a minimum no matter who the suspects are!

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DeeShawn. I think I love you.

Thank you for bringing the eloquence and clarity I lack. Next time, I'll email you my post, and have you translate it into English :-). Thanks again.

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Thieves were out again last night

....stole the a/c units off the buildings at Doggie DayCare and Clayton Appliance. Disgusting pieces of crap. It's summertime. Doggie DayCare is filled with dogs while people are on vacation and you freakin' thugs go and steal the units. What a crappy town my fine city has turned into.

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"Thieves were out again last night"

I read this subject line and thought Congress had a special night session.

To my relief it was only A/C units.

However, RKS you are right about the thugs but they are likely not to be caught. The police need to look for the companies buying the copper.

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RKS and PTC Observer: Cameras, cameras, cameras.

My friend Skyspy will attest, they are cheap, easily monitored, and will bust these pieces of crap, catching them red-handed. I hate this kind of theft, and if we had tape of these p.o.s es, we would have a much better chance of catching them. I was in NOLA weekend before last and a low life pulled a gun on Bourbon street and shot three people; a half a block down from me and four of my coworkers. His butt was on close circuit and his partner is now in jail. Google it and the shooting that happened that Sunday morning (July 10th). Most of you, as I did, will like the results of July 10th's shooting, as compared to what could have happened. This is truly sad, but we need solutions, and cameras monitored via the internet (no tapes to steal) are one proven affective answer.

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Copper thieves

As in many things, the police aren't interested in having copper buyers prosecuted---they also do some legitimate commerce.
How many such companies have you seen prosecuted in the gold buying shops, pawn shops, used clothing shops, etc.?

Not sexy enough and more work.

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Git Real, Hello stranger!

Why dont u check u'r emails sometimes? There r people out here wondering about u!

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Done

I'm on it.

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Hi Git

Stop with the vacation already. You need to catch up on your e-mails.

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It Ain't All Vacation

And I just responded to you dear folks via e-mail.

Hey...wonder if that Cattle Guard story is actually true?

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But don't forget...

...that a middle-aged white lady stole a purse in a store at the Pavilion just a couple of weeks ago! White crime does exist! Obviously this event was economically driven, too...

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Crime & Race

"scholars acknowledge that some racial and ethnic minorities, particularly African Americans, are disproportionately represented in the arrest and victimization reports which are used to compile crime rate statistics in the United States. The data from 2008 reveals that, though White Americans constituted the vast majority of total arrests made, African Americans were disproportionately represented in all forms of violent crime and property crime, as well as in the three measured forms of white-collar crime, with the average rates of representation 2 to 3 times higher than African American representation in the general population. Such disparities become greater if calculating crimes per person for different races since overrepresentation for one group also means underrepresentation for other groups. The issue of disproportional minority representation in crime rate statistics has thus become a source of debate and controversy." - Bureau of Justice Statistics, crime 1974-2008

It should also be noted that black on black crime is disproportionately high, with black males being at a signicantly higher risk of being killed or injured by another black male.

So, IMHO one of the causes of these outcomes is the destruction of the black famliy unit by the government. Keeping the poor poor through government funding and dependency has allowed politicans to create a considerable power base of voters and supporters. This sort of government support increases overtime and allows for the destruction of personal responsibility and intitative. While the black community suffers from rules that require the father of children NOT to live with the mother of their children. Before and just after WWII, there was a thriving black middle class that created businesses, developed core communities, and generally created the atmosphere for success in a not too friendly social environment. Today, the black culture is founded upon "entitlement" and government largess. It has fractured the black communitiy and in many cases destoryed the middle class culture of success that existed without government help.

It is not black people that America need fear, blacks have proven time and again their abilities, creativity, and hard work. It is a government that steals their souls and keeps them dependent that we should fear. A government plantation system that keeps blacks as slaves to its power and money, thus creating house slaves to do its bidding.

The real thing to fear is the unbriddled power of government at all levels of our lives no matter what race you happen to be.

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PTCO

Thanks PTCO. The welfare system does equal a plantation system for many. It must be used as an assistance to reaching independence - and not a way of life. Thank you for acknowledging the contribution of blacks who have been given the opportunity to experience the American dream - which hopefully includes hard work in order to achieve - and not cheating and corruption. I have seen what I consider unbelievable progress in the last 30 years. . . and I'm hopeful that this progress will continue.

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DM - Me too

I have seen the same thing, but this is despite the government, not because of it. The government has done nothing but subdue blacks and hold them down fiscally by not allowing them to be independent and take personal responsibility.

Again, the only thing government should be doing is protecting our rights as humankind without regard to race.

The only race I want to hear about is the human race.

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PTC Observer: The government doesn't allow blacks........

To be independent or take personal responsibility? With all do respect, that statement is absolutely absurd. What did the government do to keep me from being independent? How do they NOT ALLOW OR ACTUALLY prevent any man from taking responsibility for what he does? I think you may have meant that the social safety net does not FORCE people, and African Americans in particular, to become independent. That is world's apart from "not allowing" it.

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kevink - OK

I can go with that, as long as you stop using words like "absolutely". Nothing it seems is absolute anymore, not even zero. ;-)

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PTC Observer, just so you know, you right wing blowhard.....

I ALWAYS ALWAYS appreciate someone who is willing to budge, even if just a smidge (is that a word)? Thanks. We are truly much much more equal minded than either of us dares to admit. And, you are right: Absolutes are mostly conceptual ;).

Cheers, and enjoy the sweat-ring producing day. 104 still, but I'm going bicycling like cyclist. But first, a Samuel Adams Cherry Wheat! Boston produced more than Godsmack and The Stanley Cup ya know :-)

Cheers

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How's my favorite liberal relative?

Time for an adult beverage, wouldn't you say? Maybe we could work out a connection among aspiring journalists, finally?

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Mike (& CC Hutch), haven't seen my journalist in 3 weeks.Stinks

Working two jobs to expand her resume. I've challenged Hutch to a drink off, and fired a pre-emptive shot today with a pre-workout Samuel Adams. We must continue the battle which my popping of a bottle top has begun. Tomorrow evening after 9:30, evening of Wed 27th, 0r Sunday 31 July after 1600 looks good for me. Let me know.

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Kevin

Sunday, the 31st at 1630 would likely be best. Of course, being retired means anytime will work as long as I can get a kitchen pass. Gym would also be a great addition.

Looking for suggestions.

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You have never been disenfranchised in this country by some of the 50 states. You have never been refused service in parts of this country because of your color. I have. You have never been denied an equal opportunity at an integrated school in some states in this country. I have. ( and you may have too). I'm not talking about 'history' - but my actual experience as an American citizen. Our government is not perfect- but our government, by following the Constitution and the law, corrected what some states were doing illegally. PTCO, you and I are the government. We may have different ideas on how this government best serves - but I am concerned when one of your concepts is to again disenfranchise citizens . I worked very hard to get certain aspects of our welfare system changed so that the black father did not have to leave his home in order for his children to be fed. Then under 'welfare' laws, the single mother left in the home with 2 or more children and no money to pay for child care, would be threatened by 'welfare' if she left her children unsupervised while trying to look for work. Some of these horror stories have been corrected - and members of the black community are working along side others to help - but some government assistance is still needed for all American citizens in this economic crisis. I assume that you and I are among the fortunate who are surviving this crisis. There are many who did all the right things, and they are not. The 'government' is to provide what the state and individual cannot . I may have that worded incorrectly- but we are a strong country, and I do not feel it is necessary to throw out the baby with the bathwater in trying to correct some practices that no longer benefit our country and its citizens. Anyway - thanks for the non- hateful statement
concerning blacks.

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The government has done nothing but subdue blacks and hold them down fiscally by not allowing them to be independent and take personal responsibility.

This is a very general statement that does not apply to all blacks. Wouldn't you agree? I think our country needs to look at the problem of Americans taking ethical personal responsibility - regardless of race, education or 'class'.

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tell me what I have experienced or not experienced. You have no idea.

The fact is DM, we need to get government out of our lives no matter what color we happen to be. This post began with an analysis of why blacks have an usual amount of crime/conviction/incarceration compared to their population percentage. I postulate that the government has intentionally put programs in place to subdue the black race, keep them poor, and keep them dependent. That it has "targeted" the black race in an effort to separate the race from the rest of society. The purpose? It is power and maintaining power in the hands of government and the black political elite. If the black race ever figured out that politicians were simply using them to get rich, then we would have a revolution of wealth creation in this nation that couldn't be stopped. The talent, skill, creativity and work ethic that would be unleashed in a free market would akin to the Irish wealth revolution that occurred following the Civil War.

But no, this can’t happen because a culture of entitlement has grown up around the black race, fed by political intrigue and elite self-interest. This culture founded upon the idea that the past somehow gives the black race a “claim” on someone else’s property today. This entitlement culture saps the individual energy and initiative that the black race could have if this culture didn’t exist. It has created a division in our nation keeping blacks from truly integrating into society and reaching their full potential; keeping them from the equality that they so deserve. IMO, it is criminal what the government and a relative small group of black elites are doing to the black race.

Yes, it is a general statement, and there are many, many successful blacks in our society that are successful for their character not there skin pigmentation or government "help". Nonetheless, the culture of entitlement has caused so much suffering within the race it is more than sad, it is tragic.

IMHO

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Don'ttell me what I have experienced or not experienced. You have no idea.

I have an idea if you're white, you have always been able to vote in all 50 states in this country. Please correct me if I'm wrong PTCO. Thanks.

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Re-read the post DM

think about it.

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PTCO

My comment is only in response to your comment 'you have no idea'. Actually PTCO, there are areas of agreement in our thinking - IMHO - more so than areas of disagreement. I found your sharing of the Marine's letter very interesting. If more residents in the barrios and ghettos took similar action, possibly the high crime rate in those areas would decrease. There are many good honest people in ghettos and barrios that are being held hostage. We move to areas like Fayette County, grateful that we have the funds to do so, and not be relegated to living behind gates and bars to protect our belongings and families. I don't approve of doing unto others as has been done unto you - but I hope the actions of this Marine helps to cause criminals to think twice.

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The blogs need me now more than ever. I go on hiatus and kevink is left to spew his disingenuous white liberal poison to whatever ears are willing to hear it.

Funny...I remember a black duo sticking a gun in a high schooler's face at the Ruby Tuesday before it was torn down to make room for an unnecessasy drug store.

I remember a black man robbing the Dunkin Donuts in Fayetteville.

I remember black men robbing two banks in Fayetteville and a Wachovia in Peachtree City.

I remember a black man robbing a Fayetteville landscaping company that wasn't reported in the news.

I remember a black man being arrested for multiple drug felonies in Peachtree City that never made the paper.

I remember a grouup of upstanding, tax paying black citizens afiliated with a major Atlanta gang stealing 66 guns from Autry's Armory.

I remember a black man blowing a white girl's head off in a drug related dispute with a shotgun years ago.

I could go on, but why bother?

I could sit here and type out FBI crime statistics that implicate black men in the majority of violent crimes. But why bother, because everyone knows the FBI is racist. The popular argument is that crime is a problem that stems from economic causes, so why is Fayette county, one of the wealthiest counties in GA, seeing an uptick in crime over the past few years? There was an article published earlier this week about license plates that may shed some light on that.

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PTC Avenger: Let's not be selective. Honesty will be appreciated

1) In your well versed recollection of local crimes, have the majority of murders here been by the hands of white perps?

2) Do you EVER recall a local crime hater bringing up the race of the murderers?

Why is that mate?

Now, with your laundry list of reported and, ahem, "unreported" black crimes: What should we do? Based on race, what should we do?

Enlighten us.

Ps. The blogs need you as much as they need me or anyone else. No one mourns us when we leave.

Pss. It's black liberal poison, thank you very much ;-)

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1) In your well versed recollection of local crimes, have the majority of murders here been by the hands of white perps?

2) Do you EVER recall a local crime hater bringing up the race of the murderers?

Why is that mate?

Now, with your laundry list of reported and, ahem, "unreported" black crimes: What should we do? Based on race, what should we do?

Enlighten us.

Ps. The blogs need you as much as they need me or anyone else. No one mourns us when we leave.

Pss. It's black liberal poison, thank you very much ;-)

Thanks for the prompt reply.

1) "Have the majority of murders here been by the hands of white perps?"
As phrased that's irrelevant. White people comprise 71.1% of Fayette's population (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/13/13113.html), black people 20.1%. I'm honestly not acquainted with the murder stats for the county, if you have an accurate portrayal then by all means inform me. But to your original question, it's irrelevent because the overwhelming majority of populants are white, so to deal in a black and white majority vs minority paradigm would be fruitless.

2) "Do you EVER recall a local crime hater bringing up the race of the murderers?" I'm not sure what you're asking here. But if you mean blog backlash for crimes committted by whites then, yes, I do recall that.

Now to the important question. "Now, with your laundry list of reported and, ahem, "unreported" black crimes: What should we do? Based on race, what should we do?"

First of all, and no personal offense meant here, but I suspect I have better "connections" than you as to what I meant by "unreported."

What can we do? Other than heed what we see with our own eyes and what's in the news? Honestly, we CAN'T DO ANYTHING. All we can do is lock our car/home doors, be vigilant, and stay armed. That's all we can do without being labeled a county of hate by the politically correct overlords. By most measures, Fayette county is home to America's most hated...hard working, higher income, generally well-to-do white people. That's a good starting point, but to the realist it's a moot point. But such is life in modern America (by the way, I'm not an old *conservative blowhard like you might think)

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Very enlightening PTCAvenger

You brought a laundry list of black crimes to your post, but curiously, you can't recall the perps in the last half a dozen murders in PTC. Very curious.

The fact that you, I, or any other PTC citizen is more likely to be killed by a caucasion is, in your opinion, irrelevant because you say so. Because blacks are a smaller percentage. So, using your logic: When swimming in shark infested waters, beware the two or three baracudas that may be present. Okay. Fair enough.

Finally, the coup de grace: No solutions offered. None.

My inner voices are telling me you have illustrated my point....... and they also want me to go raid the Chips Ahoys.

Cheers

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Crime by race

Everyone knows that with the exception of cities with large Hispanic people, that the 15-16% of the population of African Americans has a much higher violent crime rate than does the white and mixed races.

However non-violent crime of course is very much higher among the white race. We have certainly seen evidence of that which put us into the current recession. The dollars involved are also much higher than the petty and violent crimes.

I expect just as there are more whites on welfare than African Americans due to the large population difference, but the percentage is much lower, that there are more violent crimes by the white race than African Americans for the same reason.

Now, the problem is that depending on where you live, we are more "afraid" of the desperate people who carry and use guns to rob, etc.

This fear, which we do not have for the Bernie Madoffs', causes us to be much more emotional about the "personal" violations---guns in our faces.

Contributing to this violent crime problem is the Atlanta Public Schools and others nearby of course (and I suspect in other counties and states also), where for years we have caused students to pass their grade to the next by changing their teacher test papers or report cards, and worse even, erasing wrong answers on CRCT tests to determine how much remedial work needs to be done.

We now have 12 grades of students in these cheating schools that are not able to perform in their grade due to not being taught well before they got there, or in cases where they can not learn, were not taught by remediation classes.

How long is that going to take to remedy 12 grades? Certainly not for several years.
If the CRCT tests are done honestly, that fact will appear next year.
Maybe we should re-test now!

Worse than all this is the cheating teachers, principals, and even the Superintendent AND STAFF. What on earth?
Is this something we wanted and hired someone to get it done over a long time?
You will note that the top assistant to the Superintendent was hired by a Dallas school who has the same low income, low grade scores! Is she exactly who they want?

We all know that "coverups" by officials in serious areas such as children learning is done for two reasons:
1. Organization problems along with refusing to admit the problem exists.
2. Spending all the money available, from low taxes, on salaries and things other than teacher training.

These drop-outs and graduating seniors with very low CRCT scores can not get a job (and many don't want one) due to feeling inferior and not being able to compete, eventually need money so badly that they become criminals and fill Georgia's jails!

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You brought a laundry list of black crimes to your post, but curiously, you can't recall the perps in the last half a dozen murders in PTC. Very curious.

The fact that you, I, or any other PTC citizen is more likely to be killed by a caucasion is, in your opinion, irrelevant because you say so. Because blacks are a smaller percentage. So, using your logic: When swimming in shark infested waters, beware the two or three baracudas that may be present. Okay. Fair enough.

Finally, the coup de grace: No solutions offered. None.

My inner voices are telling me you have illustrated my point....... and they also want me to go raid the Chips Ahoys.

Cheers

Oh, kevink! If only my world was spelled out in black and white monochrome like yours. I would sleep so much better at night, regardless if my doors were locked or not.

I can cite the white middle school PE coach doing bad things, same as I can cite the white youth leader being less than scrupulous (in case you were wondering, both are available...search for them).

And you're right, I offer no solutions. Any solution I offer would be immediately condemned by the local NAACP (and other orgs), which, like it or not, has considerably more say than they had a mere 5 years ago. And everyone knows it. Let's go down the line. Can we racially profile? Not legally, and I agree with that, mostly. What are we going to do, form a citizen's alliance against those who commit the crimes? HAH..see how long that lasts until John Lewis and co. rear their ugly anti-white heads. By the way, you never responded to my responses to your original questions. No surprise there though, you're tought in Political Muckracking 101 how to ask questions and leave their answers with no retort.

And only an Uncle Tom with a penchant for local politics would cry for a manhunt against Chips Ahoy. : ) Gotta love those pro-white, racially conscious elves.

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Fayette Co. Crime

Folks, the good ol' days are gone. The punks & thugs are immigrating into our once fine county and bringing their lawlessness with them. You'd better wake up and realize that the police can't be everywhere and your safety is in YOUR hands.
For the anti-gun sheeple....if you see someone carrying a weapon openly, fear not. Someone intent on committing a crime, more than likely, isn't going to carry a weapon openly. Personally, I choose to conceal carry in order to stay under the radar. 99 times out of 100, someone carrying openly has a Georgia Weapons License and is an upright, law-abiding citizen. That other 1 out of 100 is an idiot. You don't have to run to the hills and cry out "What about the children?" The handgun is not going to jump out of the holster and chase you down. Those of us who take this seriously go to the effort and expense of learning how to protect ourselves and family and loved ones. I hope to God Almighty that I NEVER have to use my weapon for protection, but I practice practice practice for just that possibility.
Oh, and one more thing.....I don't care what race the perps are. Crime by every race is probably up in Fayette. So, don't even think about starting with the racist crap.

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Thank you X 3! I agree almost completely. I'm not crazy about gun's openly carried on hips for several reasons, but I would love for law abiding 21 and ups to responsibly CC. Even the black male 21 and ups :-D. Crime would nose dive if citizens carrying in Fayco was understood to be the norm down here.

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I have no problem with

I have no problem with someone carrying openly. I just think they're giving up an advantage, BUT I also know that the sight of a gun on someone somewhere has to have made Mr. BadGuy think twice. Once I was getting gas on Hwy 314 north of Riverdale and a lowlife was giving me the eye and circling me at the pumps. I took off my jacket so that he could see my weapon and eyeballed him right back. (No, that's not brandishing a weapon, Roundabout. Don't wet yourself.) On his next circle around me he saw it, froze for a second, unfroze and headed in the other direction. If he was about to be up to no good, he thought again and made a wise decision and skeedaddled.

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You are one tuff dude.

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me tuff?

naaa, but I no longer go through life with blinders on. I simply pay attention. you can read again what I wrote and infer whatever you want, but why you decided to come up with that statement I'll never know. I just simply stated facts of the situation. What I am, though, is one of the calmest, laid back guys you'd ever meet. Until a few yrs ago I never though about the need for self defense. Surely, you'll not deny that crime in our area is up big-time, unless you've got your head buried somewhere. Might a crime visit you? If so, what are you going to do? I assume you've made no preparation at all? If not, then why not? Are you a girly-man sheeple? Just asking.....

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Earnest T: pistolo carrying

I really can picture walking around PTC and everyone has a pistol strapped to their side, even the female types. Some shooting birds out of trees as they walk; some trying to hit a tin can in the gutter; some shooting the tires out from speeding cars; some practicing quick-draw with others; and mowing everyone down in a store being robbed!

I don't see how that protects one's family, friends and loved ones!

Go back to camp, Earnest T!

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You know it all Round one!!

Oh yes wise one. That is what happened in Kennesaw when they passed a law requiring gun ownership.

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In March 1982, 25 years ago, the small town of Kennesaw – responding to a handgun ban in Morton Grove, Ill. – unanimously passed an ordinance requiring each head of household to own and maintain a gun. Since then, despite dire predictions of "Wild West" showdowns and increased violence and accidents, not a single resident has been involved in a fatal shooting – as a victim, attacker or defender.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=41196

And the crime rate dropped big time.

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Let's see.....bad guy with

Let's see.....bad guy with intent to harm me and my wife and two daughters and me standing there empty handed = oh no someone help me while I do my Roundabout imitation and wet my britches.
OR............bad guy with intent to harm me and my wife and two daughters and me standing there with my pistola (to quote you) = I'll take care of me and mine. Think about it R'A....how long will it take for the police to get to you? 3 minutes? 5 minutes? Guess what...you or your loved one is dead.
Your scenario exists only in your mind. Birds? Tin cans? Geeze, Louise, go put on your panties.
What are you gonna do Roundabout? Say 'scuse me bad guy while I call the police? You're an idiot who CAN but WON'T choose to protect himself (herself) or your family.....Roundabout=Sheeple....baaa, baaa.....
I am not a cowboy but I WILL step up and take the responsibility for taking care of my family. Who is going to take care of yours? Oh yeah, if I happen to be there at The Avenue and someone jumps you....I'll take care of you since you don't have the, uh, marbles to take care of yourself.

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Ernest T. - Read this
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ha, yes I've seen that one

ha, yes I've seen that one before. I wonder if it's true.......

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Here's how it works ...

COP: We've located your stolen car, sir. It was stolen by a white man.
VICTIM: White, eh? Let him keep it.

That's really how it works.

And not too far from that kind of thinking comes this:

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/171807-sheila-jackson-lee-su...

Rep. Jackson-Lee suggests racism is driving the debt ceiling kabuki, rather than embrace the fact that today's rabid GOP leaders would dog any Democrat in the Oval Office.

Weird that she didn't find it racial when Senator Obama voted no on the same issue.

LULZ

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N. Fayetteville SunTrust bank robbed

Starting to see a pattern here hitting banks in the norhtern part of the county.. Crimeville, damn sooner or later something has to change.

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No more dye in the money bags

Frag grenades or napalm. Napalm will make their skin even lighter.

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Light skinned black male

"The gunman was described as a light-skinned black male"

Looks like Obama. They're both crooks.

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Dearest Grizz, joekawfi, and local "I'm not a racists..."

This is a perfect example of the stale and racist conservative attitudes that have made the citizen a cesspool of intellect-free opinion. Coming to the citizen is as much fun as playing in a stagnant pond these days.

1) Racist comments about any crime with a black picture attached? Check.

2) Ignore every molestation, murder, attempted murder, ponzi scheme, internet predator, or actual predator if his or her skin is white? Check.
(You guys obviously don't know who has committed the majority of actual murders, by a landslide, here in Fayco)

3) Blow a gasket about "The deficit"? Check.

4) Ignore the fact that we have deficit spent my entire lifetime (YES, including Reagan)? Check

5) Bash bad evil unions? Check

6) Ignore the fact that even Republican Jesus Ronald Reagan was a 6-term union president? Check. Check. Check.

7) Blame the "main stream media" (whatever that is)for being untrustworthy and biased? Check.

8) Lose interest in "media" stories when Rupert Murdoch's conglomorate is responsible for hacking the phone of a dead teen, exposing the medical records of a disable kids, hacking citizens' bank and personal records, and a whole host of yet to be discovered atrocities? Check.

And all the while those somewhat moderate conservatives whisper passed the graveyard while this site is turned into an epicenter of bitter, hateful people without an original idea between them.

I'm sure my *conservative friends will ease their collective conscience by calling me a bitter liberal. Here's the problem with that: I aint bitter. There isn't a conservative on the ticket that will beat our President. The Commander in Chief. They have gained optimism by only listening to echo chambers that don't give them a serious critique of the viability of their ideas (e.g. Not raising the debt ceiling when even the Paul Ryan budget they signed off on requires raising the debt ceiling.)

So, I am quite content to watch candidate Bachmann explain having worked in COLLECTIONS for the IRS, or accepting farm subsidies and then lying about it. Or her husband accepting Medicaide/Medicare and her lying about the amount.

I'm content to here Romney explain being a born again prolifer with Romney Care's personal mandate in his resume.

I don't mind hearing Herman Cain explain his complete misunderstanding of our wars in The Middle East, while he crafts the oath of allegiance he will only require Muslem Americans to take before working in his administration.

I'm not disgruntled. I'm sad for my *conservative friends who fail to critically wuestion the racist statements of their fellow *conservatives; who fail to hold their fellow *conservatives to a minimum standard of honesty.

You are left with indefensible positions and statements; stuck in a cesspool.

And you'll still be there when Barack and Michelle begin year 5 in the White House.

Now then, load your missives. "Damn the Torpedos, Full Speed Ahead."

Cheers

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Racist? Seriously?

Who are these fictional white people you speak of committing crimes in Fayette County? It must be a conspiracy since the paper refuses to report on it.

I've lived here my entire life, as a matter of fact, my family has been here in excess of 10 generations. White people commit crimes too, but the random, violent crimes we heave seen in recent years are not the doings of these people.Nor are they the acts of the very decent black people that have lived here in this county as long as my family. These people are decent, honest, hard working people. I am proud to call them my friends.

There was not a problem until people of color from outside the county started coming in. Call it what it is. It's thugs that have either moved in or just come in to Fayette County to commit these crimes. I wish that the decent black people of Fayette County would stand up to these thugs and run them all off.
Stop trying to brainwash the decent people of Fayette County who have watched all of this happen. It is a disgrace and you all should be ashamed of yourselves. We are not stupid. We watched it happen.

Having lived here all of my life, I know many working for the City of Fayetteville police department as well as the Fayette County Sherriff's Department. They know the truth and have no problem telling you about those people that commit crimes and cause trouble and the majority of them are black. No way around that!!!

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2boys: How long have you lived here? Short memory u have.

I've lived here a while too. Long enough to remember a man attacking a Hwy 74 hotel receptionist, tying her up, trying to poison her, and robbing the register. He was a white guy. For some reason, no one focused on his race.

I remember a black man being shot and killed in a new (at the time) neighborhood west of Walmart. White trigger puller, but no one focused on this.

I remember a woman shooting a man grave yard dead outside of his work onHWY 74 (NCR I believe). White female, but this was not relevant.

I remember a white man killing his son and his wife..... several white men arrested for coming to PTC to have sex with what they thought were 13 and 14 year old girls.

Tincan, try as you might to make this a "Kevin" thing, here are the FACTS: No one here brings race to the forefront when the criminal does not fit their prejudice.

You "I'm not a racist"s seldom fail to mention race if the perp fits your prejudice.

If this is not the case two boys and tin can, why have I not seen you comment on race in a single murder or rape or molestation or robbery case when the perp is white?

I'll answer for you: It does not support your argument that crime has a black face. So you ignore it.... and in doing so, your prejudice becomes very transparent.

My belief is this: If you can't provide a solution for a race-based problem, and apply your demographic focus on crimes consistently regardless of race, you are most likely just race-baiting to support your inner prejudices.

So, blacks robbed a bank. What should we do? What's the answer? Profile all blacks at the county line?

Again, Tincan and two boys: You can pretend that you just happened to sleep through the crimes of whites, but I don't hear any solutions from you two; just race baiting 101. If you don't like me pointing that out...... Tuff

And, ABSOLUTELY no desire to meet you tincan, so you can chillax (learned that word from my daughter :-) )

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Kevin

I've watched you fight this battle since 2005. Your words won't change some minds here - they feel very comfortable lumping all blacks together and making statements that are not true about the majority of blacks that live here in Fayette County. They would be the first to scream if we made general statements about 'whites'. (I learned that early in my experience here). There have been some here who have acknowledged that their neighbors who happen to be black are just as concerned about 'crime' as they are. The criminals that are taking advantage of Fayette County's 'innocence' are just that - criminals. NOT ALL BLACKS ARE CRIMINALS. NOT ALL WHITES EAT THEIR VICTIMS. ETC., ETC., ETC. I was told that when the Olympics came to Atlanta, a large part of the 'ghetto' was claimed for Olympic activities - and those persons were encouraged to find section 8 housing in Clayton County. It is important for residents of Fayette County to protect their property by not allowing Section 8 renters in their developments or neighborhoods. (The sad thing about my last statement is that after this economic crisis, there may be some very deserving young people who can benefit from Section 8. That is why I have always fought for homeowner training for those who were about to rent using Section 8. Anyway Kevin, I am just here in this discussion to present a different point of view. We live in a social-right part of the country that still, in many ways, is recovering from the Civil War. Nothing but time and exposure to others will change that, There are many areas of agreement between conservatives and liberals/progressives, yet it appears that most 'racists' are more comfortable with the 'right'/conservative ideology at this time. Actually, what we call 'race baiting' has become part of the 'culture' among those who are insecure about their status since 1964. What really amazes me here in the South is the 'fear' of blacks - rather than the fear of criminals. There are more blacks in the South than I've seen in my entire life anywhere else (except in Africa). Anyway, keep expressing your feelings about the comments that are often racist in this discussion, You appear to know some of these folks personally - I don't.

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David's mom. Get to know some of these folks.

They only bite if requested to :-D. I really don't get it. When a joke like jokeawfi made a blog basically calling blacks the face of crime everywhere, not a single person challenged his logic locally. And when I pointed out the factual inaccuracy of calling crime a black problem here locally, folks like Tincan roll in to wonder why I'm on a "tirade."

Hard to understand. But, I'm just trying to keep a nook of this paper where people can go to blog without being the "face of crime " by default.

On a brighter note, the lack of blogging has allowed me to stamp up me and my kids' passports :-). On the downside, I miss reading Jeff C and Carbonunit and Nuke and Jevank and Gitreal (Yes, Gitreal) and you and Hutch and Cyclist and Skyspy......... well, you get the point.

Enjoy the weekend. Buen provecho. Que tengas un buen fin de semana. Que vc passa un fin de semana boa :-)

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Yawn???

You Called?

Why howdy Kevin...

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Howdy Git. Yawn is right.

Enjoying the 103 degree temps in your folks' neck of the woods. This place has become a yawner. Same ole lack of ideas, ad hominem attacks, and tired nonsensical tag lines at the ends of each post (no offense on that last one ;-)

Glad all is well,friend

Cheers

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Well howdy Git

It has been awhile. Glad to hear that you are out there living large.

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Hi Carb

All is better than I deserve. Just appreciating life and all the little and big things that show up in it. I rarely come on but I have fond thoughts of many of the bloggers on here. Best to ya!

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kevink

Please quote the blog where 'basically called blacks the face of crime everywhere'. Or are you just making up stuff again, you little jagoff weasel?

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Joe Kawfi

With out a doubt, you are the bravest person to ever strap on a keyboard.

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Hutch. Speaking of jokeawfi.........

You and I, over the years, have come to recognize bravery and character and personality. Which, obviously, makes it quite easy to spot the lack of same.

Jokeawfi aka amoeba back bone: Did you give commentary and *statistics stating your opinion that where blacks are, greater crime is? Blacks bring crime to every corner of the Earth? What was your point? And why are you so indignant when anyone calls your subject matter by its name? I honestly have never met such a sensitive yet offensive, brave yet cowardly, anonymous and cowaring yet verbally omnipresent internet being such as yourself.

Sadly, I'm again tasting the sweet residue of three-day-old vomit, and need to resume taking BadPTC and Tincan's advice, and pretending, as they do, you don't exist.

Now where is the listerine?

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Just as I thought-

You were making it all up. I never stated it. Was 'weasel' your call sign in the navy, Kevin?

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Giving credit where it is due

Kevin and Hutch, give Joe a lot of credit for really knowing how to stink up a place.

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Joe Kawfi = David's Mom

Joe Kawfi is the white equivalent to a black David's Mom....

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Git Real

Git Real is the equivalent of a sphincter.

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Jokeawfi, I am trying to keep the taste of your bile out of my..

mouth, but as for Gitreal being a sphincter, think about it. You are calling him absolutely essential to healthy living. If we didn't have sphincters, we'd all be full of crap, just like you.

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Jokeawfi, I am trying to keep the taste of your bile out of my..

mouth, but as for Gitreal being a sphincter, think about it. You are calling him absolutely essential to healthy living. If we didn't have sphincters, we'd all be full of crap, just like you.

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Weasel

Yeah, Kevink - that's you.

A sphincter spews crap, just like you.

Night, night, WEASEL.

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. .and joe

Is white too? Who would have guessed it? Catch ya next year ! Enjoy your travels. I' m so jealous!!! NOT ! LOL !It was too easy to draw your insecure self out of hiding - you haven't grown at all. Maybe next year you'll be a little more mature. Bye!

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HUH?

Insecure? Hiding? Huh?

Do you even understand your own ramblings? Oh well.....

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Git Real - Come

back more often than a year.

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Git

Thanks for checking in. Enjoy that scooter!!!!!

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Gym

Yep...will be getting back soon I hope. Staying in shape in other ways though. See ya!!!

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Kevin

Thanks Kevin. You are a saint! (even Git Real????) LOL. Have a great weekend- y gracias a tu tambien.

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Some Of Us Are Living It Large To Your Pathetic Chagrin

In your infinite jealousy you would be finding a way to somehow put a damper on a FREE man living it large and enjoy life all over the country. Continue on inventing me into what you desire me to be so that I will fit in your own personal bigoted mindset as some sort of demon. As for me....I shall continue on enjoying the many wonderful folks I meet via air, motorcycle, auto, business and such that add flavor to my life and this country and will in the mean time, continue with not wasting as much time on jealous and bigoted old hat racks like you that can't see past their own blinders that they wear in order to somehow justify their own pathetic lives and failures in life. Go git off this site and git yourself a life.

There now.... I'll check back in another year and roll my eyes at the continued mushy babble you spew as you paint sainthood on your race while demonizing successful and hardworking white men.

.......

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Didn't "Dollar" get canned here once?

....for saying much saner things about individuals than this fellow?

Guess he is one of those people too successful to can?

I give DM a hard time also about being too general, but this.........

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roundie

I'm not a big gambling man but I'll lay a small wager that you thought Bonkers registered somewhere on the sane scale.

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Tincan

I hope "Bonkers," as you say, was sane!

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Failure Git Real?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you the one who stated that you wouldn't hire a black person (which is your right), but complained when your business did not get a contract at the airport or some other location that was using federal funds? You were so proud to state that blacks were not qualified or too lazy to work for you. (You're entitled to your opinion based on your experience). but thank heavens my hard earned tax money isn't going to be used to support your business. A year ago your words expressed bigoted, arrogant ignorance, and I see that nothing has changed. I know that with your success, you have rehired the employees that you reportedly had to let go. And I'm sure they enjoyed the plasma TV you purchased after letting them go. I've been retired since 1999. . . .living large here in Georgia and loving it. Believe me, I'm not jealous of your reported success. However, in my limited experience here in Georgia, there are many successful men who are doing wonderful things to help their community - but they never have to go on a blog and brag about it.

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Help us understand the "airport" law, Moms

Without restating the obvious - we all know the quota system is the law and it was a reaction to past discrimination - got all that. What I am asking is for you or anyone else to explain the logical reasoning that supports a law that requires contractors of a specific race to obtain publicaly-funded contracts to the exclusion of contractors of other races.

After that maybe explain how it helps anyone to have a token minority as the head of a company that is staffed with the same people of all races who actually do the work.

Sounds like a modern version of "Irish need not apply"

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Morgan, the attorney?

The law does not promote the exclusion of any 'race', but rather the necessity of combating the 'old boy' mentality to insure inclusion of all Americans. 'Black' businesses also hired 'token' whites in order to comply with the law. Most successful businesses have moved past this sad era in our history, and their workforce represent the American racial makeup. (You guys must have really hated the common sense discussion that appeared anti- Republican. Interesting tactic. McConnell saw the handwriting on the wall, and so do the moderates and independents. Let's hope Reid and McConnell come up with something that will pass in Congress. If not, and a large proportion of the American public suffer because of inaction, the political plan to not cooperate with the Democrats will backfire. Nice try to move away from the discussion regarding current politics to race. Really transparent. You guys are loyal Republicans, but appear to be too lockstep for most of the younger generation. Both political parties will need to analyze the next generation, and change their approach to governance in order to remain significant.)

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DMOM on Sat, 07/16/2011 - 11:41am you wrote

“This president went to the American people and told all of us what he would and would not accept in a proposal. The American people are waiting for ALL Congress members to do their job - it's their constitutional responsibility.”

On Sat, 07/16/2011 - 11:33pm, I replied

“DM, I believe you're mistaken”

“As per several news sources President Obama has been quoted as saying, "everything is on the table".

“Your statement of: "This president went to the American people and told all of us what he would and would not accept in a proposal". One of you is not telling the truth.”

“Please help me identify which one it is?”

Now it appears that you have either chosen to simply ignore my question, you’re unwilling to answer the question or you’re just hoping I go away.

Since you don’t “shy away” from anything I think it’s time you summon your courage and tell us; was the President lying or were you lying?

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Bad

I thought that Jeff's comment and my contribution 'On The Table' covered an answer. The answer will be apparent in the deal, if presented to the President, is signed or vetoed. Calling anyone a liar at this point of the discussion is not productive.
The posturing and game playing goes on. Cut, cap, and balance is the new Republican mantra. This does not appear to be moving towards resolution. The conservatives in the Republican Party are giving McConnell a rough time. I agree with some pundits - CCB makes an interesting bumper sticker. Politics as always - before the American people.

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Git Real

Oh, are you white?

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Davids mom _ race card

When everything else fails - Play the race card! Sorry DM, it just flat doesn't work any more. As one other blogger phrased it "everyone in here has got your number".

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Major and Mytimite

,. . And yours is quite apparent . You're not alone - nor am I. Git Real and I have a history, but the South has changed and women and blacks don't shy away from the likes of Git, Kawfi, Major Mike or Mytimite. The people in Fayette County are examples of how Americans can live together in spite of the likes of you. We recognize you're here , but you are insignificant.

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Race card/Hate card

Most people I know shy away from people who play the race card for no apparent reason. Your posts give us something to laugh at though. Keep up the good work with your race card/poor me thing. How is the race card working for you dm? Can you really bully people with that?

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Skyspy

You know, I didn't bring up race in this discussion. Check it out. The Civil War is over . The Confederacy lost. I stood in line with my fellow American citizens in Georgia and voted for a Black man for President of the US. I'm a happy camper. Now if we can just get the Congress to pay our debts as promised and work together to get us out of deficit spending, our country will continue to be a world leader. Nite!

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Hypocritical Joke This Woman Is

I am quite certain that I have helped out far more black folks in my life than you ever have white folk. And WTF does it mean that "women and blacks" don't shy away from the likes of me? There has never, EVER been a need for them to consider doing such. You are a cancer as far as race relations goes in this country you cloaked bigot. Your phony race acceptance soap box is about as credible as our federal gumament claiming they are protectors of freedom, liberty and opportunity. It is also "recognized" that "you're here too". And you are indeed well noted for your hypocrisies. Nuff said. There are wonderful and sincere people out there to interact with. Bigots, enablers and excusers like yourself aren't worth my time.

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Git Real

No secure man who is successful and mature would even participate in such a discussion. I know I have 'racists' concepts, (many of which have been corrected by participating in this blog) and some which have been confirmed by the likes of you.
and such outstanding intellects as Joe Kawfi and Major Mike. You're in good company. Now go tuck your tail in again and come out in another year. . . You're too much of a successful 'white ' man to be bothered by this little old black lady. (By the way, did you ever get a contract on a job that had state or federal funds? ) Just checking. LOL.

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Kevink and race related comments

Please use your superior intellect and point me to a post where I said anything about the race of a perp. You’re so focused on racial ranting you can’t seem to recall who said what. First of all, the situation is obvious and needs no further commenting. Secondly my posting was always about your constant screaming race and dredging up the few crimes that suit your weak argument. Personally I don't much give a crap about you at all. Sorry I don't have your daughter’s access to the new vocabulary. Suppose I’ll see it in Webster soon.

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tincan

My 'superior intellect ' tells me I wasn't the first to bringup race here in this thread; just the first u chose to comment on. Now, WHY might that be?