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Wrongful death lawsuit filed against Fayette and 11 EMTs

A wrongful death lawsuit against Fayette County and 11 county emergency medical technicians was filed in Spalding County State Court late last week. No dollar amount of damages being sought was given in the court papers.

The suit stems from the April 28, 2009 death of 57-year-old Fayette County resident Dickie Denney. The suit by Denney’s wife Charlene alleges that her husband’s death resulted from a number of errors including the administration of what became a fatal overdose of morphine.

Mrs. Denney filed a wrongful death lawsuit on Sept. 9 naming Fayette County, Fayette Emergency Medical Technician Jason Crenshaw and John Does 1-10 as defendants. Denney maintains in the suit that her husband’s death followed a number of errors made after EMTs arrived at their home. One of those alleged errors included a fatal dose of morphine sulphate.

Noting that Denney had oxycodone in his system (for which he had an active prescription for the past several years), the cause of death according to an autopsy by DeKalb medical consultant Dr. Gerald T. Gowitt was determined to be “opiate intoxication aggravating pre-existing atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease.”

Contacted Monday, Fayette County Administrator Jack Krakeel said it would be inappropriate for him to make any comments on legal proceedings involving the county.

According to the lawsuit filed by Fayetteville attorney John Mrosek, Denney had worked his way through a series of heart attacks and had attained a good state of health after the installation of a pacemaker.

The lawsuit noted that Fayette County Emergency Services staff had visited the home on prior occasions without incident and had transported Denney to either Piedmont Fayette Hospital or Emory University Hospital. But that was not the case on April 28, 2009, the suit stated.

With Denney complaining of mild chest discomfort, EMTs were called to the Adams Road home, arriving there at 10:25 p.m. The home is a short distance from Tyrone Road and approximately 3.62 miles from Piedmont Fayette Hospital, according to the filing.

Once on the scene, the EMT that appeared to be in charge at the home was Spalding County resident Jason Crenshaw, according to the lawsuit.

During the home visit and after the initial diagnosis conducted by emergency medical staff, “they concluded that Mr. Denney was not in an emergency situation,” the suit stated, adding that EMT’s offered numerous treatment alternatives.

Denney said his level of pain was a “3” on a scale of 1-10. The family at some point decided that Denney should be transported to Emory University Hospital.

The lawsuit alleges that during his time at the Denney home Crenshaw “exhibited an angry, antagonistic and malicious attitude and tone to Mr. Denney and to his family and created, in the eyes of witnesses, an atmosphere of hate.”

The lawsuit adds that Crenshaw exhibited numerous breaches of national, state and local protocols and breaches of the standard of care from an emergency medical provider.

Crenshaw at some point is said to have administered morphine sulfate without consulting Charlene Denney and in contravention of the established national and state protocols for the administration of the drug, the lawsuit said, adding that Crenshaw’s explanation for administering the morphine was to “knock him out” for the ride to Emory.

The suit states that, “Less than 10 minutes after Mr. Crenshaw administered the morphine, he radioed to 911 dispatch a ‘Code 7,’ meaning that Mr. Denney had experienced the initial stages of life-threatening cardiac arrest in that his heart had stopped beating due to the inevitable depressive, analgesic effects of morphine coupled with the existing Oxycontin (oxycodone) in his system (in a patient with a history of cardiovascular disease) thus causing his heart to stop and quickly causing Mr. Denney’s death.”

The suit maintains that, “at some point prior to 11 p.m. Crenshaw and defendants decided to administer morphine sulfate without consulting Mrs. Denney” and that “Denney’s situation escalated from a non-emergency situation to a cardiac emergency at approximately 11:03 p.m. when his cardiac arrest started and was witnessed by Crenshaw.”

Crenshaw recognized the error of treating Denney with morphine, the suit stated.

The court filing also states that while in the ambulance Denney was given an injection of Narcan, “a drug designed to offset the depressive cardiac effects of morphine they had just given Mr. Denney.”

According to the filing, Charlene Denney returned from filling her husband’s overnight bag and seated herself in the ambulance. She was not made aware of the life-threatening condition of her husband, the suit states.

Once underway, Crenshaw radioed dispatch saying that Denney was being transported to Piedmont Fayette Hospital.

The suit questions the route taken by the ambulance crew. With the destination now listed as Piedmont Fayette rather than Emory, the suit questions why the ambulance headed north on Adams Road and stopped on the side of the road near Sandy Creek Road, a route to Piedmont Fayette that would be of significantly greater distance than if the ambulance had gone south on Adams Road to Tyrone Road then east to the hospital.

The suit states that, while parked along the roadway off Sandy Creek Road, two additional crews arrived at the scene.

Meanwhile, the ambulance in which Denney was being transported stayed at roadside for approximately 15 minutes before resuming the transport to Piedmont Fayette.

The ambulance arrived at the hospital at 11:24 p.m. and Denney was pronounced dead at 11:59 p.m., according to the suit.

Also noted in the suit was Charlene Denney’s attempt to secure an autopsy and a death certificate. Fayette County Coroner C.J. Mowell was called to the hospital, where he sent various records to the Georgia State Crime Lab. “... an on-duty physician there conferred with Mr. Mowell and concluded that the death of Mr. Denney occurred as a result of ‘natural causes,’” the suit states.

The filing said that once notified, Charlene Denney “disputed the same and pointed out that her husband had been injected with morphine and that that was the cause of death.

“Mr. Mowell rejected her comments and refused to order an autopsy or inquest and said that the matter was closed.

“When Mrs. Denney asked about an autopsy, Mr. Mowell refused and told her that she would have to search on the Internet and pay for an autopsy out of her own funds.

“Despite Mrs. Denney’s repeated demands ... Mr. Mowell refused to issue a death certificate in this case. It was only after he released jurisdiction in August of 2010, more than a year later, that another medical examiner was able to issue a death certificate showing the cause of death to be ‘opiate overuse.’”

The subsequent autopsy performed by Gowitt determined the cause of death to be “opiate intoxication aggravating pre-existing atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease.”

Commenting last week after the lawsuit was filed, Charlene Denney said she is determined to find the answers to her questions.

“You think things like this don’t happen in real life. They knew in the driveway (of her home) there was a problem,” she said, adding that she is not afraid to take a stand on the issue of her husband’s death. “The biggest thing is trying to get the truth from the county and the truth about what happened that night. I couldn’t get the answers so I had to file suit.”

Denney said she does not want others to have to go through what her family experienced, adding that she wants cameras installed in the patient compartment of all ambulances and the capability of EMTs to be able to speak directly with emergency room physicians during cardio transports.

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What is going on Fayette County? Suit after suit on and on. Are we safe in this county?

This is awful. I can not believe that this happened in our county. It makes me scared to even call 911 now.

Both new just in time to post these prejudiced posts. Hmmm

Just because there is a lawsuit doesn't mean there was any wrongdoing. That remains to be seen and may never be known for sure. If you base your safety on an absence of lawsuits you'll never be safe...of course, you never were and never will be completely safe in this world anyway.

You are so right......If not for litigations for truths to come out then no one is ever safe....when truths come out people demand changes in our safety....

Forget this case! Let's concentrate on SPLOST!! If we had more roads it would only take EMT's 30 minutes instead of an hour to get to PFH!! Come on!! WE NEED ROADS NOW!!

Forget this case? Are you insane? A family man died at the carelessness of the EMTS and you just wanna forget it and worry about roads?????

Two new identities, created today, GracePureheart and hera2010. The first makes an obscene and outrageous comment about our neighbor’s death, and then the second obliges the first by responding with outrage.
This is just a Troll, sitting there playing with themself, waiting for others to take the bait and jump in. PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS! Let this thread end here please.

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin

I think that was an attempt at sarcasm. But be carefull accusing someone of carelessness when you weren't there. There's always two sides to every story and we're only getting one side: the side that sells papers.

Might as well charge the whole medical community!

I didn't know Fayette had that many TOTAL?

How did that many get mixed up with one trip case?
Do they get paid for going?
Is that why the price is $800.00?

I fear that is one area the new Medicare will check on and reduce payment.
Too many, too much.

As a retired EMT, I can tell you that EMT's do not administer morphine. Morphine would be administered only by a paramedic and then with standing protocols for chest pains. (1-2 ml, titrating to pain relief.) As a retired coroner, I can tell you that the Georgia Death Investigation Act requires the coroner to order a autopsy in an unnatural death. To not do so would violate his oath of office and he can be charged with a crime. The on-duty medical examiner at GBI/DOFS only goes by the info he is provided by the local coroner. I am suspicious that this Charlene Denney is either trying to get $$$$ from the county and/or state. Jerry Gowitt is above reproach. Do they still have the vial that the morphine was administered from? Validate the dose and strength of the MS itself.

Also, since oxycodone was already in his system and it was a valid Rx, it could be listed as contributing to the opiate intoxication. Interestingly, it does not say that the intoxication was "acute." Sounds like to me that it was the poor old man's time to die and the distraught/guilt-fed widow is trying to make a buck. The question is not why did he die, but how did he live so long? Think about it!

I agree with some on here that some "new" members here sound prejudiced too soon!

However, as to the man who died, we must wait and let all the evidence be fairly investigated (as named by a competent lawyer, of course)before we start saying who can do this and who can do that, and where are the vials and the lab tests, and it was the man's time to go, etc.!

Ever since the widows, etc., of 9/11 in New York got over a million dollars in donations and law suits to come, everyone who feels cheated or is crooked is filing lawsuits----mostly because others got rich off death.
The people in New Orleans and now on the Gulf Coast also want to be made rich by donations and lawsuits.

There are also some who call emergency for a ride to the hospital at the drop of a hat or unnecessarily---this on occasion does anger emergency people who make the calls. It shouldn't but that is human nature.
Usually insurance companies will buck such repeated use but if one doesn't have any insurance, then it is on the house sometimes!

None of that matters however if someone is truly sick, but if a patient in that supposed bad health isn't under a doctor's treatment with proper medications, then the question arises as to why not!

It also doesn't do any of us any good to accuse the widow of false intentions without a proper investigation.

And by the way: no one is "above reproach" when they are a part of an organization in contention!

Have you ever heard of a policeman who was witness to a cop in trouble for excess beatings say that yes, it was excessive! He says nothing usually.
Same with most organizations. I see no difference in that and Coroners and EMTs, and hospitals, etc. Unfortunately it is human nature to allow past "good deeds" to sometimes cover one possible "bad one."
Politics is also full of this sort of logic.
Let the facts come out first. If the widow, and not an EMT or the dead man's doctor, is wrong about a lawsuit, so be it.

If the facts alleged in the complaint <em>(especially "knock him out" for the ride)</em>--can be set forth clearly in court -- this one will be expensive.

There is a lot of suspicion and a lot to explain about the 15-minute delay on the roadside. Supervisors /watch commanders were there? Who knew what??... and when??

If this delay was more about "getting their story straight" than trying to save the patient's life -- there should be some terminations -- post haste.

It seems the hospital staff and perhaps the coroner (unwittingly?) contributed to the circle-the-wagons mentality around the EMT errors.

Anytime a family member -- or-- staff; Anyone who attended the treatments of the deceased patient voices a suspicion of avoidable errors or foul-play -- the autopsy should be "automatic".

The coroner insisted otherwise -- and the family indeed had an independent autopsy performed. I predict they will get their money back!

I expect that after pre-trial discovery, a settlement will be forthcoming, which will not include "the admission of any wrongdoing" and we will be back to business as usual.

Yes, I agree.
"Back to business as usual." A payoff by taxpayers, and not in court at all---are you kidding---doctors, hospitals, EMTs in court in Fayette?

Just like Judges, DAs, Chiefs of anything, commissioners of anything,
and against people with good lawyers from Philadelphia.
(or on TV).

We criticize other countries for operating like that, don't we.

By the way, I know I occasionally indulge into truths that hinder the normal operation of the way we do certain things, and can easily tell who thinks some are due consideration above others that we fear, but I don't care!

Very few "other countries" have such an open civil court system...
...And are guaranteed the "redress of grievances" in their constitution.

The option to settle a tort case for a consent decree is often the best end to the legal complaint.

The main next thing---
We really need "loser pays" to put an end to the bringing of frivolous actions.

Sure you know-- the county has liability insurance.
Yes -- the taxpayers pay the premiums for same.

Have a good day.

County has liability insurance!

Who pays for that?

Does it make other insurance more expensive?

Think once in awhile!

Looks like scribbler is the only savy blogger here.....Lot of good points! Very smart! Looks like some suspect bloggers on here....the "doctor" is out of order and in contempt of court!
I am sure the plaintiff has her ducks in a row or she would not have filed a suit..........How else can one get justice in this country legaly? How else can changes be made to help the safety of all people if suits are not filed to get to the "answers and truths"?

These bloggers are in for a big surprise! To all the comments made about the "dead man" and the "widow looking for a fast buck" and the phony bloggers ....why don't you have the guts like the widow in this suit and do something for the benefit of mankind..........Think About It......It could be your daddy or mother or son or daughter or sister or brother that has a terrible tragidy happen in your life....What will you do my fellow brothers and sisters?

Stand up and be counted for in this life or you lose!!!!

Thanks scribbler.....it is refreshing to know there are some in this county that think outside the box.

[quote=snowball1950]Looks like scribbler is the only savy blogger here.....Lot of good points! Very smart! Looks like some suspect bloggers on here....the "doctor" is out of order and in contempt of court!
I am sure the plaintiff has her ducks in a row or she would not have filed a suit..........How else can one get justice in this country legaly? How else can changes be made to help the safety of all people if suits are not filed to get to the "answers and truths"?

These bloggers are in for a big surprise! To all the comments made about the "dead man" and the "widow looking for a fast buck" and the phony bloggers ....why don't you have the guts like the widow in this suit and do something for the benefit of mankind..........Think About It......It could be your daddy or mother or son or daughter or sister or brother that has a terrible tragidy happen in your life....What will you do my fellow brothers and sisters?

Stand up and be counted for in this life or you lose!!!!

Thanks scribbler.....it is refreshing to know there are some in this county that think outside the box.[/quote]

Private Snowball1950, I've read all your posts up to this point and you get the "Most Typing Without Contributing Anything To The Conversation Award!" CONGRATS!!!! (This will be my only reply to one of your posts - to reply again would be a waste of keystrokes)

Facts? You mean accusations or allegations. Delay on roadside? Common when patients take a turn for the worse and more help is needed - the driver gets in the back to assist until more help arrives. Getting their story straight? Yeah, all those healthcare providers are going to go along with a cover-up for one person's alleged error. Admission of wrongdoing? There has to be wrongdoing in the first place. It is humorous that you just assume that all statements made by the family member are true. You sound suspiciously like an ambulance chaser.

HAHAHA! Funny,,,,,,,,,,,,,When did you get your license...........are you on the list?

Your title sounds just like the answers obtained from so-called investigators....hahahahaha!!

Come on! This is not Disneyland and there is no tooth fairy......Think!

Don't be so cruel speaking of attorneys....One day you will need one I am sure of it! Show some respect for attorneys for a change.........you have the good with the bad just like EMTs.....don't condem all for a few bad apples that need to be squeezed out!

"IF"... "ALLEGED"... "SUSPICION"... "OPEN QUESTIONS?-?-?-?"

It's called "context" -- and sets the tone for what is written or spoken.
You might want to re-read my previous post with an open mind.

Popping-off rudely and issuing insults only reveals your emotional involvement and lets everyone know you haven't done your homework.
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(1) Did your buddy decide to <em>"knock him out for the ride"</em> -- what facts have you about that?? Please tell us!

(2) The roadside delay/mystery?? Do you have the facts here also??
FYI - your loose set of assumptions will not be sufficient under oath.

(2a) Who was there-- a list of all the players?

(2b) Who has all the facts about this EMT'S pre-transport protocol and enroute treatments /counter-measures?

(2c) When were supervisors brought into the loop?

(2d) Who was giving orders during/after the stop??

(2e) What would a transcript of the radio logs and cellphones tell us?

(3) Do you think it's <em>possible??</em> --for public-safety agencies /local governments /officials to close ranks very quickly when errors in judgment and practice occur in the field? (Please don't continue in your naivete).

(4) There are a lot of frivolous lawsuits. You seem to think this is one of them--- I have a different view of the possibilities. We have an honest disagreement. Let's see how it plays out.

(5) The reason lawsuits are allowed under the law of the land is to settle serious disputes on a level and impartial playing field. The loss of life is a serious dispute, even though your friend is under the microscope. If he is innocent of wrongdoing-- he will be vindicated.

IF--IF--IF the ALLEGATIONS are proven and his errors caused a wrongful death he should be sanctioned or terminated. That's how it works.

If there was an active conspiracy to cover-up the facts of the matter-- a crime was committed and someone should go to jail! That's also how life works.

AFTER PRE-TRIAL <strong>DISCOVERY</strong>--
There may be a dismissal of this case (for lack of merit)....
--OR--
...If the case moves forward-- a settlement forthcoming without admission of wrongdoing. Back to work.

Can you get your head around that?

For the record:
I am not a lawyer ---yet I greatly resent your slurs against my several very honorable friends who practice in the legal profession. Grow up.

Your lack of knowledge in the area of EMS operations is evident in your rambling and nonsensical ravings about what may or may not have been happening on the call. Speaking of continuing in naivete, do you really think that eleven people are of such low character that they would all conspire to cover up a mistake (alleged) by one person? Perhaps you and your "honorable" friends should subpeona the President, the Pope, and Colonel Sanders in case they were involved or just might be able to shed some new light on what happened....while you're at it please advise us on your latest crackpot theory on who's really responsible for 9/11.

Why don't you look at the complainant's side of the matter as critically as you have the defendant's side?? Do you have a sympathetic viewpoint? With the knowledge of EMS that I possess it would be easy for me to ask critical questions and paint the complainant in an unflattering light, but that would be as inappropriate as your uninformed hypothesizing.

In this post you state, "If he is innocent of wrongdoing he will be vindicated." Previously you stated, "I expect that after pre-trial discovery, a settlement will be forthcoming, which will not include 'the admission of any wrongdoing' and we will be back to business as usual." So which is it? You convict him first, then offer a chance at innocence on second thought? If anyone is "popping off rudely" it is you with your assumptions of guilt and condemnation.

As for the "slur" about your "honorable" friends, I said YOU SOUND like an ambulance chaser - I stand by that because of your obvious bias for the complainant. That in no way indicates that all attorneys are bad or that you actually are one.

Get your head around that, stop slinging mud sprinkled with little league legalese, and demonstrate some maturity yourself.

[quote=yeahwhatever] Why don't you look at the complainant's side of the matter as critically as you have the defendant's side??[/quote]

Once the patient was treated and transported, the complainant was little more than a spectator.

This widow has waited patiently for an objective medical examiner's findings before filing the legal complaint through competent legal counsel. Looks from here like they have their part in reasonably good order.

OTOH -- When the ELECTED CORONER refuses to render findings in the death, and ends up only ceding jurisdiction after a year's delay -- well ---serious questions are in play about the entire matter. What are we hiding?? --and why? Can you understand the idea of "reasonable suspicion"?

Reasonable suspicion is a long way from conspiracy theory.

You guys want to debate EMS protocols-- what you don't seem to get-- the arena has expanded now-- the lights are on much brighter.

As I replied to your buddy DontWorryAboutIt:
[quote=scribbler]<em>It's not about the science of EMS medicine and protocols now--bigger than that. </em>

<em>NOW -- it's about ALL OF THE FACTS AND ALLEGATIONS, and WHO? /WHAT? /HOW? it was involved in the treatment and death of Mr. Denney-- including the reasonable spectre of possibility that there was an attempt to cover-up /delay the finding of these facts.</em>[/quote]

The ball is rolling--
We'll see how it ends up; and how high up the food chain the effects are felt here in the county.

As a longtime resident, I'm am keenly interested to see the public safety system work as it should-- that includes the performance and integrity of those we have elected to oversee your dedicated work.

Which is it??
I merely expanded my first remarks -- if your buddy is in the clear-- great. If he is at fault, --OR-- the legal outcomes are even uncertain, the county's lawyers and insurance company will make a settlement offer--which I am sure will include terms of "no admission of fault or wrongdoing". That's just how it is done.

If the plaintiff's refuse the offer-- all bets are off. All your friends involved are going to have to fasten their seat belts.

From here-- the plaintiff's are on a crusade to right some wrongs, and demand higher accountability from the department.

Asking hard questions and seeking the answers is not mud-slinging.
We'll see who is spouting nonsense and ravings soon enough.

Enjoy the ride.

Scribbler knows something. Scribbler is laughing at all the emts because he knows what happened to Mr. Denney.

Scribbler knows the plaintiff is on a crusade to right some wrongs and demand higher accountability from the department heads.

I will be right there with scribbler "Enjoying the ride" I am sure Mr. Denney is now "enjoying the ride" with us to see what kind of justice he will get for the loss of his life!

A lot of friends and a lot of US Dept. of Justice will be on that ride as well!

Have a great weekend!

[quote=eyeopener]Scribbler knows something. Scribbler is laughing at all the emts because he knows what happened to Mr. Denney.

Scribbler knows the plaintiff is on a crusade to right some wrongs and demand higher accountability from the department heads.

I will be right there with scribbler "Enjoying the ride" I am sure Mr. Denney is now "enjoying the ride" with us to see what kind of justice he will get for the loss of his life!

A lot of friends and a lot of US Dept. of Justice will be on that ride as well!

Have a great weekend![/quote]

Everyone is talking about a delay at the side of the road. Have any of you tried to perform CPR, maintain an airway and give live saving drugs while driving down our country roads and at fast speed? It is impossible and the delay would have been to get other help while utilizing the crew at hand to contniue to safe his life. Also, those times are all recorded and can be made exact. Why don't you all let CJ do his job? The state mandates criteria for automatic autopsies and if a primary physician signs a death certificate then there is no need for an autopsy if the coroner agrees. Did the patient have a primary physician? He could have requested an autopsy but owe the family would have had to pay for it???? That is quite interesting to find that a autopsy was done a year later in another county and that it took a year to find someone to do it.??? That is a clue that it was not needed. Scribbler, that is just what you are doing, scribbling. What do you know?

You obviously are not and EMT.

They are trained to do everything you said couldn't be done!
Usually touchy things are done before they pull out.

I have never seen an ambulance parked for any amount of time with a hospital patient inside going to one.

[quote=ER RN]That is quite interesting to find that a autopsy was done a year later in another county and that it took a year to find someone to do it.??? .[/quote]

[quote=ER RN] Why don't you all let CJ do his job[/quote]

The autopsy was delayed for a year by our own esteemed coroner. That FACT appears to be established.

[quote= Citizen Article] Mr. Mowell <strong>refused to issue a death certificate in this case. It was only <em>after he released jurisdiction in August of 2010</em>, more than a year later</strong>, that another medical examiner was able to issue a death certificate showing the cause of death to be ‘opiate overuse.’”[/quote]

Yes, nurse, I am a writer-- I scribble a lot.

I know how to break paragraphs...
...and put thoughts in sequential order,
....and de-fuse my emotions before attacking those who hold a contrary opinion to my own. That's what open and civilized debate is all about. You should try it!

[quote=ER RN]What do you know?[/quote]

I know how to ask ALL the RIGHT QUESTIONS, and stick around until the answers are forthcoming; ESPECIALLY IN MATTERS OF PUBLIC SAFETY-- AND THE CONDUCT OF OUR PUBLIC OFFICIALS.

I know where this is this much smoke, something is burning.

I know that so many friends of this young EMT are so vehemently emotional trying to defend him and this situation-- I can't help but wonder what he told them privately. Hmmmm....

I know that I have several more decades of life experience than yourself and your young colleagues, and have seen more of these situations from both sides.

I am grateful for EMT's, firefighters, doctors, ER Nurses, and everyone in the life-saving business. But when mistakes are made-- accountability is part of the landscape.

If the answers were easy and clear... and had been placed on the table in the sense of transparency, we wouldn't be having this debate; and there would likely be no lawsuit. What does that tell you?

You might care to read my response to your friend "yeahwhatever" below.

As a doctor I can't wait for the day to come when emergency medical care is no longer available to people because we are all too afraid to practice medicine any longer. Why in the world would any paramedic have to consult with the wife of a patient to administer narcotics to them? Morphine is a very heart friendly medication and is the drug of choice for cardiac related chest pain.

As for "why did the ambulance pull over?" I'm sorry if it seems easy on television or where ever you are getting your medical information from, it is not easy to establish an airway, intubate, and treat a cardiac arrest in the back of what is essentially a pick up truck that is riding down the road.

Obviously you are trying to downplay the seriousness of the patients cardiac issues. Why in the world would an ambulance have to respond so often to someones house who is "in a good state of health". And who takes oxycontin for years if they are healthy? Give me a break!

Also, just for a side note for the citizens of Fayette County. When you are having chest pain, don't request to be driven to a hospital in Atlanta. That pretty much tells everyone that you don't need to be riding in an ambulance in the first place. If you can go all the way to Emory, get in your car, don't tie up a local 911 ambulance for this. If your really having chest pain you need to go to the local hospital.

Not everyone in the medical field is a saint. But most of us try to do the best we can. We don't get up in the morning and think "who am I going to kill today?" Take responsibility for your health and take care of your body. If you leave it up to everyone else to do so you will be sorry because we can only take care of so many people at once. And stop the crazy lawsuits. Before your doctors stop taking care of you!

How much oxycontin had this person consumed in the hours preceding the call for help? Was this addictive drug being taken exactly as the Dr. prescribed?? Why on earth had this person in "good health" been taking a highly addictive dangerous drug for years??

Where is that bottle of medicine? Has it already been thrown out so that no one will be able to determine how much of an overdose this person in "good health" took???

The only time I have heard of that an ambulance has to stop is when the person's heart has stopped. It takes 2 of them to work on a person whose heart has stopped. I doubt they were taking a coffee break. The fact that they obviously called for back up should tell us all how serious this was.

Also, which Dr. or ER gave the orders for the medication?? My brother is a paramedic in another state, and administers drugs only after a DR.s orders.

Lots of questions need to be answered here.

I 'm sorry for your loss, but this smells like a scam.

If you stop taking care of us, we will put you in jail!

Never heard anyone before say to take someone to the hospital in a car.
Can't be treated there, can they.
You aren't a very good person to speak for medical personnel!
wasn't' it the Coroner who said he was in good health?

Of course ALL medical people are Saints! Just like Mother Teresa!

EPIC FAIL

Hint: Doctors know you're, your and you are.

"If your really having chest pain you need to go to the local hospital."

As someone who used to work alongside Jason Crenshaw, I doubt he would ever ever treat a patient with disrespect. In a matter a fact, I laughed when reading the comment that he was angry at the Patient. As a paramedic myself, I would have given Mr Denney the same dose of Morphine for chest pain. It always floors me that people call us to their home and then tell us what to or not to do. If Jason felt that the patient was stable then it is likely he was stable
As far as the 15 minutes stop goes...he may have coded (who knows) then I would have requested help to revive the patient. With One driver and One Medic had they kept driving he would have had no chance. I hope that Mrs Denney is put in her place. This is awhole lot of crap. I am sorry for her loss, but dont blame the people who met you at your home and did their best, with their little pay to save your husband. I respect Jason and learned a lot from him when I was in school. Whenever I have been in an emergency situation in Tyrone and he showed up, I was always at peace because he is that great! Get off the Paramedics back. Also, why moan and groan about it in the paper. Most of these men and woman do this because they love it.

Times are tough. Maybe they need some extra easy money. Sure wish they had a loser pay in court. That would stop a lot of this. But just maybe there is good reason here. Just maybe some bad decisions were made. We all screw up. No one is a perfect. I just hate to see the so much time wasted in courts. The only winners are the lawyers. And you cant believe any of them thats for sure

Read my reply to you.....Thanks for thinking outside the box.....You are the only savy and real blogger on here.

Thanks for your kind remarks.

I know Jason Crenshaw, and he is full of himself. He is arrogant, and rude, but has saved many lives. As for the patient treatment, did he treat the chest pain with oxygen, nitro and aspirin prior to giving morphine. Chest pain of 3/10 may not have required morphine to treat the pain. Was the 12 lead EKG showing an ischemic or injury pattern? Did the patient truly need morphine to control his pain? A patient having chest pain severe enough to require morphine, needs to be transported to a local hospital. In addition, did the local hospital act as medical control, and allow the Fayette County EMS transport the patient to Emory after giving the morphine.

After reading the article, it reminds me of private EMS, and their lack of care. Also, I feel a coverup taking place from CJ.

At least your are not "inthedark"!!

Must be another EMT on this blog? What do you think of an EMT that drinks Mountain Dew on duty? But needs something stronger? Do you play Mafia Wars while on duty as others do?

I agree with the doctor. There are so many cases where a medical professional tries their hardest to help or save, and they receive a lawsuit for their good intentions. Sometimes, no matter what... It is just someone's time. If there was an error, then yes, there is wrongdoing; however, this little article from the citizen does NOT show everything that happened. It does not tell you what EMS had in their pt's history.
Fayette county, don't bad mouth the people taking care of you. Everyone makes mistakes, and when they do, they will pay for them. But you all are not the judge, and are not the ones that make that decision.

Dollparts? Sweet....

You are so right but like in your own words wait and see.........this is not Dollywood or Disneyland and dolls are not real...don't state what you don't know....when you do know you will throw down the dolly and scream with anger and FEAR!!!!

God Bless You Dolly...you are safe from the boogy man untill one day you will be in the real world like the widow and then you will realize you are not safe.

I'm sorry he lost his life, but blaming the EMT's seems a bit of a stretch.

" According to the lawsuit filed by Fayetteville attorney John Mrosek, Denney had worked his way through a series of heart attacks and had attained a good state of health after the installation of a pacemaker."

Get Windex and clean your spyglass..........you may need a clearer vision...You get it?

Multiple Heart Attacks doesn't exactly sound so good, Just saying....

With all of these new gripers joining here just since the death, it seems to me something else is going on! Has to do with the law suite maybe?
("fat EMTs; idiots; terrible patients; and the insinuations that EMTs or paramedics hate their jobs")

In the past if someone died or got worse in an ambulance, it was accepted that everyone did all they were capable of with a good mood.
These Recessions do bring out problems, huh?

Whether he had a pacemaker or not or had previous problems has absolutely NOTHING to do with this occasion! Take a lot of proof to prove otherwise!

I think it boils down to things like this used to be accepted, but nowadays we live in the world of gotcha----good sometimes, bad sometimes!

Medical personnel of all types are under the gun right now for costs and attitude. It is 30% of our economy!

I think you may have a good point. "These Recessions do bring out problems, huh?"

Could this mean the EMTs may have resented the dead man because he was what is the rumor around town "wealthy!"? Good point if this is true people do resent those that have and those that don't may decide they have the power without money to take you down?

God help this world because Fayette County is full of those that "haves" so they better find another way to get to the ER!

[quote=eyeopener]I think you may have a good point. "These Recessions do bring out problems, huh?"

Could this mean the EMTs may have resented the dead man because he was what is the rumor around town "wealthy!"? Good point if this is true people do resent those that have and those that don't may decide they have the power without money to take you down?

God help this world because Fayette County is full of those that "haves" so they better find another way to get to the ER![/quote]

Jason Crenshaw has struggled with personal issues for years. He has alienated his coworkers with his unpredictable behavior and his inability to develop positive working relationships with his colleagues. I understand that he has been reprimanded multiple times by Fayette County. All of this information will potentially come out during a trial. While it may not aid the plaintiff in securing a victory, it will definitely show Jason Crenshaw in a most unflattering manner. The Fayette County Fire Department will be forced to explain in detail the multiple disciplinary actions it has had to take against Jason Crenshaw over the years. Regardless of the outcome, it appears that the Fayette County Fire Department is going to be portrayed negatively and I believe it will be difficult for Fayette County to justify retaining Jason Crenshaw as an employee.

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