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Sarah Palin deserves an apology. When she said that the new healthcare law would lead to “death panels” deciding who gets life-saving treatment and who does not, she was roundly denounced and ridiculed.

Now we learn, courtesy of one of the ridiculers — The New York Times — that she was right. Under a new policy not included in the law for fear the administration’s real end-of-life game would be exposed, a rule issued by the recess-appointed Dr. Donald M. Berwick, administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, calls for the government to pay doctors to advise patients on options for ending their lives. These could include directives to forgo aggressive treatment that could extend their lives.

This rule will inevitably lead to bureaucrats deciding who is “fit” to live and who is not. The effect this might have on public opinion, which by a solid majority opposes Obamacare, is clear from an email obtained by the Times.

It is from Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.), who sent it to people working with him on the issue. Oregon and Washington are the only states with assisted-suicide laws, a preview of what is to come at the federal level if this new regulation is allowed to stand.

Blumenauer wrote in his November email: “While we are very happy with the result, we won’t be shouting it from the rooftops because we aren’t out of the woods yet. This regulation could be modified or reversed, especially if Republican leaders try to use this small provision to perpetuate the ‘death panel’ myth.”

Ah, but it’s not a myth, and that’s where Palin nailed it. All inhumanities begin with small steps; otherwise the public might rebel against a policy that went straight to the “final solution.” All human life was once regarded as having value, because even government saw it as “endowed by our Creator.” This doctrine separates us from plants, microorganisms and animals.

Doctors once swore an oath, which reads in part: “I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.” Did Dr. Berwick, a fan of rationed care and the British National Health Service, ever take that oath? If he did, it appears he no longer believes it.

Do you see where this leads? First the prohibition against abortion is removed and “doctors” now perform them. Then the assault on the infirm and elderly begins. Once the definition of human life changes, all human lives become potentially expendable if they don’t measure up to constantly “evolving” government standards.

It will all be dressed up with the best possible motives behind it and sold to the public as the ultimate benefit. The killings, uh, terminations, will take place out of sight so as not to disturb the masses who might have a few embers of a past morality still burning in their souls. People will sign documents testifying to their desire to die, and the government will see it as a means of “reducing the surplus population,” to quote Charles Dickens.

When life is seen as having ultimate value, individuals and their doctors can make decisions about treatment that are in the best interests of patients. But when government is looking to cut costs as the highest good and offers to pay doctors to tell patients during their annual visits that they can choose to end their lives rather than continue treatment, that is more than the proverbial camel’s nose under the tent. That is the next step on the way to physician-assisted suicide and, if not stopped, government-mandated euthanasia.

It can’t happen here? Based on what standard? Yes it can happen in America, and it will if the new Republican class in Congress doesn’t stop it.

[Cal Thomas is America’s most widely syndicated op-ed columnist, appearing in more than 600 national newspapers. He is the author of more than 10 books and is a FOX News political contributor since 1997. Email Cal Thomas at tmseditors@tribune.com.] ©2010 TRIBUNE MEDIA SERVICES, INC.

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and he'll also say his show is a LOT of BS. He's proud of it. To me his show was a lot better when he was just local in the Atlanta area. Who was the Atlanta Mayor he went off on all the time? Good stuff.

Agree with your comment. The Mayor was Bill Campbell I think. IMO Boortz has become much more crude and is incessant on nserting some sort ofsexual innuendo into most every conversation/discussion. But one can hardly argue with his success.

Robert W. Morgan's picture

He was much better before syndication.
I think he's really a city host - nationally he's in over his head.

Bill Campbell was the mayor that used to drive Boortz nuts and judging from his Olympic performance and jail term, Campbell was a real loser - sort of the Steve Brown of Atlanta.

Live free or die!

I've decided I'm no longer going to accept "just an entertainer" as an excuse. After watching Palin's PR flack offer up that same bromide yesterday, it sickens me.

Boortz and Palin's "entertainment" is sickening. They've got a right to speak their mind and spew their vitriol to their adoring public, but Americans should stand up and get in their faces and say "What in the HELL are you talking about?" when Palin regurgitates her "Don't Retreat.. RELOAD" spew and puts targets on the names of individual Congressmen.

When they babble about "second amendment remedies", we as a country need to say "Whoa! What the HELL is wrong with this person".

We as a country have gotten rather immune to the constant spew of hatred from the right...it's taken the shooting of a member of Congress to jar our sensibilities out of complacency.

PTC Observer's picture

don't have to accept it, but it's a fact.

Palin's poll ratings should fall to about her IQ this week.

What are you worried about, she's toast anyway. And as I just said to DM, she is the best thing ever for your man Mr. Obama, if she runs.

Mike King's picture

...Hope that you're staying warm. Like you I'm a growing a bit tired of this political 'entertainment' bovine excrement.

Whether it's O'Reilly or Matthews, Boortz or Behar, Hannity or Stewart, or even Limbaugh or Couric-they each make a great living preying upon the intellectual deficit of those who follow their every syllable. Most Americans have forfeited the right of original thought and find themselves mindlessly following their leaders much like the followers of Jim Jones.

Does one really believe that there is an ounce of difference between the likes of Reid or McConnell in the US Senate? Simply two old aged men addicted to their positions of influence and prestige to have a modicum of decency to step down when both know they only serve themselves.

I agree that we as a country have become callous to the spew of hatred, but from both sides not just one. It is unfortunate about the Congresswoman from Arizona, especially since she embraced ideals from both sides of the aisle.

What say you?

I agree with your post.

I'd like to ask your opinion on something, if you don't mind:

When you first heard about the Congresswoman getting shot, were you completely surprised? Or were you, at some level, expecting something like this to happen?

Mike King's picture

I'm not at the least surprised, and really expected it for some time. My reasoning is the approval rates of the US Congress over the last decade.

My worry now is that the representatives of the people are to become more isolated from those they represent. It will be a typical over reaction due mainly to self importance.

How accessable is Lynn Westmoreland, really?

Cyclist's picture

<strong>Americans should stand up and get in their faces...</strong>

Here's Boortz's phone number 404.872.0750. Let us know when you call so we can all listen.

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Boortz is a dick, and not so entertaining.

Targeting positions on a map with a 'bulls-eye' - and making a statement to 'reload' and putting the 'targets' in cross hairs are very different. I think all agree that rhetoric that glorifies violence is dangerous. It should be used as a 'hammer' against all who resort to this type of 'rhetoric'. No one who resorts to this is 'innocent' or 'acceptable'.

Sarah Palin's PR rep was on the news yesterday explaining it twern't a "bullseye", it was a "surveyor's mark".

Dontcha know.... *rolleyes*

That PR person should be fired! This is a time for creative silence from the Palin camp. What a lesson - critique carefully words that are used that could be envisioned as supporting violence. Do surveyors 'reload'? (However - it's great that we learned this BEFORE this individual became a leader of all 50 states!!!) Whew!

PTC Observer's picture

happen. Palin does not represent the vast majority of people that want a reform and downsizing of government. She is an entertainer, nothing more.

She left her future politicial ambitions back in Alaska when she resigned the governership.

She has co-opted the TP but even the TP doesn't truely reflect the determination of many more to downsize the government. It's going to happen because we are broke, it is just that simple.

The democrats are living in a dream world, thinking things were like they were in the 1950's. It's over, gone, through....

Sarah Palin will lose if she runs, even to Obama and everyone knows this. She doesn't have a chance in the Republican party and if she splits the party, Obama will win. Sarah is the best thing to ever happen to Obama for his future chances.

[quote]The democrats are living in a dream world, thinking things were like they were in the 1950's. It's over, gone, through....[/quote]

I don't think the Democrat's are in a dream world. All thinking Americans want to tackle the deficit put Americans back to work, etc. The disagreement is the method of achieving this. Our enemies want to see us weakened and divided. Let's work together - and defeat the desire of our enemies.

PTC Observer's picture

but let's not sacrifice principle in the effort.

Finding the <strong>"very different"</strong> meaning between the symbology of "bullseye targets" and "crosshairs on the map"...
Give us a break....

Rhetoric is rhetoric...
Political or otherwise...
And the freedom thereto guaranteed..

And bullets are bullets...

And the right to keep and bear arms is also guaranteed..
Like it or not...

The committed choice and acting-out of the perpetrator...
-- is the bottom line to this equation

His decision to break the law and acting to take lives..
--THAT--
...will be the work of a court of law and a jury...

words -vs- bullets fired

symbols -vs- violent action

political debate -vs- premeditated murder...

THERE'S THE <strong>"VERY DIFFERENT"</strong> DEFINITIONS...
**************
DM --
Do you want to see something <strong>"very different"</strong>??

PLEASE NOTE --

The very hot lib / MSM "free speech" and "2nd Amendment" fever over this tragic turn of events....

---QUITE THE CONTRAST---
To the "official gubmint response"...
as well as the MSM and lib-blog reaction to the Fort Hood massacre...

<em> "Let's not jump to conclusions.... about Major Hasan"

<em>"There shouldn't be a rush to judgment"

(Lemme see... committed to an historically violent belief system...
---pupil of a known violent imam - al Awlaki....
Lemme think some more.... no rush to judgment here!)</em>

Road apples... by the truckload...
...In staggering proportions...

So typical libs...

Thank you for your input.

[quote=David's Mom]<em>Thank you for your input.[/quote]</em>

Nice punt...

[QUOTE]and making a statement to 'reload' and putting the 'targets' in cross hairs are very different. I think all agree that rhetoric that glorifies violence is dangerous. It should be used as a 'hammer' against all who resort to this type of 'rhetoric'. No one who resorts to this is 'innocent' or 'acceptable'.[/QUOTE]

[quote=David's Mom]<em> I think all agree that rhetoric that glorifies violence is dangerous.</em>[/quote]

We don't "all agree"...
...bad assumption...

Don't be confused....
"Danger" is not in the lawful expression or speech---

Actual danger is on the wrong end of a weapon in the hands of the committed and intentional criminal-- or the deranged...

The only "danger" around here are the lefty zealots...
...who prefer to silence those who disagree with them...

Sooo.... short of repealing the First Amendment ...????

Hmmm....
I am genuinely intrigued by your position because you seem to prefer the taking of the rights of others.

<strong>How would you recommend establishing your preferred "rhetoric standards"?!?!?!</strong>

************<p>

<strong> How would you propose to "enforce" your recommended standards---????

[quote=David's Mom]<em> It should be used as a 'hammer' against all who resort to this type of 'rhetoric'.</em>[/quote]

Isn't using a hammer against someone -- an act of violence...??
--OR--
...Were you speaking "rhetorically"...
...You know... in metaphors and symbols--
...Like the respective political campaigns with those bullseye/crosshairs maps??

[quote=David's Mom]<em>No one who resorts to this is 'innocent' or 'acceptable'.</em>[/quote]

Does your reasoning and your standards for "innocent" and "acceptable" likewise apply to the Great Liberal Hero Barack Hussein Obama??

<em>“If they bring a knife to the fight, <strong>we bring a gun,<strong>” </em>
....Obama said at a fundraiser in Philadelphia Friday (6/13/2008)

Your contention/proposal ascribing "guilt-by-association" on the basis of free expression---

--pretty slippery slope... um hmmm....

As you stood by your previous statements.... likewise do I regarding the typical lib "double standard":

[quote=scribbler]<em>Road apples... by the truckload...
...In staggering proportions...</em>[/quote]

Thanks for sharing your opinion

PTC Observer's picture

the first response by good intentioned people in times like these is to take rights away from millions of fellow citizens. However, this is not just the left; the right is guilty of the same thing. Consider the Patriot Act and it's infringement of many of the Bill of Rights that this Act turns over to the bureaucracy. Consider the 1982 Property Forfeiture Law that can take your property without due process and passed under President Reagan. And a recent example for the other side is the Affordable Health Care Act of 2010 under President Obama which forces people to buy something they may not want. There are many, many more laws that degrade our ability to act as free individuals in a free society. The control by the state over our lives continues and it our acquiescence to this control that will enslave us.

Your recap is appreciated-- and the aftermath and abuses of each of those "well-intentioned" infringements also remain well documented...

Each and all of your citations provide excellent motivation to stand our Constitutional ground and protect our rights from any further erosion by the "well-intentioned"-- or the greedy politicians /bureaucrats--- and especially the silly-socialist left...

Regards...

[quote=scribbler][quote=David's Mom]<em> I think all agree that rhetoric that glorifies violence is dangerous.</em>[/quote]
We don't "all agree"......bad assumption...
Don't be confused....
"Danger" is not in the lawful expression or speech---
Actual danger is on the wrong end of a weapon in the hands of the committed and intentional criminal-- or the deranged...
The only "danger" around here are the lefty zealots...
...who prefer to silence those who disagree with them...
Sooo.... short of repealing the First Amendment ...????
Hmmm....
I am genuinely intrigued by your position because you seem to prefer the taking of the rights of others.
<strong>How would you recommend establishing your preferred "rhetoric standards"?!?!?!</strong>
<p>
<strong> How would you propose to "enforce" your recommended standards---????
[/quote]

Did you not get enough oxygen at birth? That might explain a few things.

Had you attended an accredited high school, you might have learned that the standard already exists, and it has existed since 1919. The Supreme Court ruled that the <strong>First Amendment right to free speech was NOT absolute</strong>, and Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes gave the famous example of falsely yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theater.

The standard was modified later in 1969 to limit restrictions on free speech to the legal standard of "imminent lawless action" (inciting a riot). If the old standard was still in force, it could be argued that the entire staff of Fox News might be in prison today.

Perhaps next time you'll do a little research before shooting off your mouth.

I somehow doubt you will, though.

Jackwagon

PTC Observer's picture

What is a "Jackwagon"? Is it not a insult that is familar to me.

[quote=PTC Observer]What is a "Jackwagon"? Is it not a insult that is familar to me.[/quote]

It's a term of endearment recently popularized in Geico commercials.
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=421471697217

PTC Observer's picture

popular culture, LOL.

Pardon the citation of facts...

Don't let them get in the way of your magnificent self-affirmed intellectual superiority...

There are also many cases affirming COMPLETE PROTECTIONS of the 1st Amendment's guarantee of free speech and expression...

Most of those cases arose due to EXTRAORDINARILY OFFENSIVE means or content....
-- Burning the American flag...
-- The "artistic" picture of the "P*ss Christ"
-- Krishna disciples handing out leaflets, books amd flowers in the airport....
--The perverted contents of Hustler magazine...

Tempers and rhetoric were at an all time-high...

Yet the SCOTUS affirmed...
--- that even what was OFFENSIVE...
--Remained free and protected...

Kinda like yourself...

MARVELOUS CONTEMPORARY EXAMPLE:

<strong>"If they bring a knife to the fight--- we bring a gun"</strong>
<em>--Barack Hussein Obama -- Philadelphia PA -- Friday the 13th (6/13/08)</em>

Where were your gallant protestations and high-horse insults when your hero was shooting off his mouth??

Ummm hmmm...
(thought so...)

jerkweed...
jigwater...
jinx-box...
jack-whatever...

I had to look it up....

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jackwaggon

ENJOY!

I agree the crosshair map was a poor choice, but that sort of rhetoric has been part of our political discourse from the very start. One only has to think back to 2008 to remember a certain Illinois Senator and would be Presidential candidate saying something along the lines of "if they bring a knife, we'll bring a gun".

(and I've included a link to source the reference: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_brings_a_gun_to_a_knif...)

...seems to be a-okay with some of you on here. If so, you are part of the problem in this country, not part of the solution.

<strong>"If a Detroit Muslim put a map on the web with crosshairs on 20 pols, then 1 of them got shot, where would he be sitting right now? Just asking.</strong>

<strong>Weird: rightwingers say movies, video games affect behavior -- but real world violent rhetoric from leaders & radio talkers have NO impact!</strong>

<strong>I find it abhorrent that Sarah Palin would stoke the coals of extremism with dangerous messaging, then delete it when something bad happens.</strong>

<strong>Sure, Sarah Palin didn't pull the trigger. But then, neither did Charles Manson.</strong>

<strong>Christina Taylor Green was Born on September 11, 2001, and killed today by terrorist in Arizona. Irony much?</strong>

<strong>Sarah Palin rummages online frantically erasing her rabble-rousing Tweets like a Stalinist trimming non-persons out of photos.</strong>

<strong>I'll say this, if your first instinct after hearing about a tragedy is to scrub yr websites, you have a problem as a political movement.</strong>

<strong>CNN's Dana Bash says "this could be a wake-up call." THIS ... ? The whole Tea Party, carrying guns to rallies WASN'T??</strong>

<strong>Teapartiers have been asking for this to happen, and how they're pissed off that we're calling them out on it.</strong>

<strong>STOP SAYING"BOTH PARTIES"!! The Left has not been advocating Violence."</strong>

Mike King's picture

STOP SAYING"BOTH PARTIES"!! The Left has not been advocating Violence."

I suppose Bill Ayers slipped your mind.

[quote=Mike King]STOP SAYING"BOTH PARTIES"!! The Left has not been advocating Violence."
I suppose Bill Ayers slipped your mind.[/quote]

(Edward R. Murrow voice)

"When cornered, a proper conservative verbal duelist will often retreat to the comfort of the late 1960s, which will afford him/her the opportunity to deliver the dreaded <strong>HIPPIE PUNCH!</strong>, once again castigating Democrats for sins (both real and imagined) that occurred well over two generations ago or to smugly remind us of Republican accomplishments (such as civil rights legislation) that the current Republican party has long since refudiated."

Mike King's picture

The Bill Ayers reference was to make a point. Would you rather I compared surveyor points to actual targets on a map? Had I done so, the point would've been lost on some.

I guess my hippie roots are beginning to show.

Mike, I think most of SDS is working in the White House now! http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html -GP

I challenge you to name ONE SINGLE member...or former member... of the SDS currently working for the White House in ANY capacity.

Your comment is a PRIME example of your "say/do anything to delegitimize the Obama administration" mentality.

Cyclist's picture

What I find interesting is that it was the Hillary Clinton's camp in "08 that tried to make an issue of the President's association with William Ayers. Oh well, things move on.

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Observerofu's picture

Andy Stern, former SDS member and former president of SEIU and is on President Obama’s Fiscal Responsibility Commission. Jeff Jones, former SDS member, is now a member of the Apollo Alliance and helped write the stimulus bill. The president’s "spiritual adviser," Jim Wallis, another former SDS member.

All in the Whitehouse or working with the Whitehouse either on a Commission or as a advisor.

Next!

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

Neither Stern's or Wallis' wikipedia entries document your SDS claims.

Jeff Jones' wikipedia entry indicates a lengthy involvement with SDS but also states he has been employed by Apollo Alliance for years. Please document his alleged White house employment.

Please provide links to document your claims.

Observerofu's picture

each and everyone is a former SDS member and each and everyone has ties to Obama.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

[quote=Observerofu]each and everyone is a former SDS member and each and everyone has ties to Obama.[/quote]

Just as I thought, you can't document your claim.

You can't provide any proof that any of the three people you named is working in the White House.

You just made stuff up.

Again.

<strong>LIAR</strong>

Observerofu's picture

but a useful fool.

Anyone with a laptop can google the info and get thousands of hits so here you just proved yourself to be what we all know you to be pure bovine excrement.

Like I said before you don't want a debate you want to argue. Even when we show you that you are wrong you run behind insults and bully tactics.

[quote=Chris P. Bacon]

You can't provide any proof that any of the three people you named is working in the White House.

You just made stuff up.

Again.

<strong>LIAR</strong>[/quote]

Stern is on Obama's Fiscal Commission for crying out loud dufus.

Here let me help you with something you are not used to using FACTS:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/andy-stern-says-fiscal-commis...

"Former SEIU President Andy Stern, who sits on <strong>President Obama's fiscal commission,</strong> says he will not endorse the panel's final recommendations if they are dominated by Republican ideas."

Jim Wallis is Obama's Spritual advisor:

http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=about_us.display_staff&staff=Wallis

"Jim Wallis is a bestselling author, public theologian, speaker, and international commentator on ethics and public life. He been named to serve on the <strong>White House Advisory Council</strong> on Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships. "

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

Okay, so you've backed off your claim for Jones. One down, two to go.

As I indicated in my previous post, please document Stern and Wallis' alleged SDS involvement.

Until then, we'll assume you're lying again.

Observerofu's picture

and once again you simply keep throwing mud.

Should have known better then actually think you might acknowledge your mistake.

http://www.thecitizen.com/node/5259#comment-20587
See comment #12

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

Trying to bluster your way out of a corner again?

Got caught in a lie again? Sure seems that way!

<strong>SHOW US THE SDS INVOLVEMENT FOR STERN AND WALLIS</strong>

Here's your big chance to make a liar out of me!
Just show me a legit source documenting the SDS involvement for Stern and Wallis!

How hard is that?

*I* couldn't find any site documenting their SDS membership......I suspect YOU couldn't either!

Let's review: The challenge was to provide the name of an ex-SDS (or current SDS) member working in the White House.

<strong>YOU'VE FAILED TO DO SO</strong>
You supplied three random names, NONE of whom seem to have any connection to SDS.

<strong>SHOW US THE SDS INVOLVEMENT</strong>

Observerofu's picture

part of SDS. Google it-find it-prove it bacon-You can't and never will.

I could give dozens of links you would simply find or invent something to discount it.

Wallis lead the militant Students for a Democratic Society, at Michigan State University.

Stern was trained in the tactics of radical activism at the Midwest Academy. This was formed by former Students for a Democratic Society members Paul and Heather Booth, Sterns became a prominent member of SDS.

These tidbits might help you on your quest.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

Still blustering, eh?

Now you want me to prove a negative, the epitome of logical fallacy.

Jim Wallis has a full-time job as the publisher of Sojourners magazine. No "White House position" that I could find. "spiritual advisor" is not a White House position.

Andrew Stern had some friends in the SDS.....I didn't ask for people who had friends in the SDS. Show me Stern's SDS involvement. In any event, Stern serves in an unpaid capacity on a Presidential commission...not the same as a "White House position"

Keep trying...or perhaps I should say... <strong>Keep LYING</strong>

Wade Radthke, former SDS member, founded ACORN and SEIU. Andy Stern, another SDS member and former president of SEIU and is on President Obama’s Fiscal Responsibility Commission. Jeff Jones, former SDS member, is now a member of the Apollo Alliance and helped write the stimulus bill. Then, of course, there is the president's "spiritual adviser," Jim Wallis, another former SDS member.
SDS merged with several other commie organizations and formed MDS http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-file-33-more-weathermen-for-ob... Jeff Jones is on the board at MDS and still works with SDS, http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-file-33-more-weathermen-for-ob... he is also a member of the Apollo Alliance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Alliance which is funded by George Soros Tides Foundation and wrote the stimulas bill http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/08/27/pro-obama-apollo-alliance-advised... It is really quite an easy job to find out the truth about Obama's radical ties, anyone willing to do a little research can easily see them. And check out the last name on this list http://www.fiscalcommission.gov/members none other than Andy Stern who visited Obama 22 times. Yes Bacon, Obama's radical ties run deep. -GP

Lotsa cut and paste....no answers though.

You've shown us various people campaigning for Obama.

That's not what I challenged you to provide.

<strong>Show me ONE current or former SDS member working for the White House in any capacity</strong>

Harder job than you thought it was, hmmmm?

You know, you could just admit you were in error.

Observerofu's picture

No matter how much evidence you share he will just ignore all of it, claim you never gave it and then say you are lying.

It is easier to debate with CHR or lion then it is with bacon.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

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