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The Liberal Empire strikes back

Cal Thomas's picture

The Left apparently has taken to heart the admonition of former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel to “never let a serious crisis go to waste.”

In the aftermath of the Tucson tragedy that killed six and wounded 14 others, the Left has attacked talk radio, Fox News, Sarah Palin and anyone else it can smear. Never mind there is not a shred of evidence that the accused gunman, the mentally disturbed Jared Lee Loughner, ever watched Glenn Beck or listened to Rush Limbaugh (Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, a Democrat, irresponsibly suggested Limbaugh incited Loughner).

Even if Loughner had watched and listened to conservative media, what does that prove? Millions do, but they don’t go on a shooting rampage. What do other murderers and terrorists watch on TV or listen to on the radio? Why isn’t the media they consume a matter of interest? Answer: Because it doesn’t further the Left’s agenda.

Since the Left lost its monopoly of the U.S. media, it has repeatedly tried to suppress speech it doesn’t like. Thus, we hear calls by Democratic Representative James Clyburn of South Carolina for the resurrection of the Fairness Doctrine. Rep. Robert Brady, Pennsylvania Democrat, reportedly plans to introduce legislation that would make it a federal crime to use language or symbols that could be perceived as threatening or that incites violence against a federal official or member of Congress. Who would police that and based on what standard?

In the 1980s when conservative groups tried to “clean up” the bad language, sexual references and violence on TV, the Left cried “censorship.” When conservatives campaigned against pornography and “music” that encouraged violence against women and racial epithets, they were told a healthy First Amendment required that even the most offensive speech be tolerated. It was the same argument used to allow the burning of the American flag at political protests.

But the Left is intolerant of speech it disagrees with and so wishes to censor what it cannot overcome with superior argument.

Eric Burns wrote a book titled “Infamous Scribblers: The Founding Fathers and the Rowdy Beginnings of American Journalism.”

Compared to 18th-century journalism in America, today’s media are tame. Burns writes of the Gazette of the United States (born on April 15, 1789, while the Constitution was being ratified) that its editor, John Fenno, was an ardent supporter of the federalism represented by George Washington and Alexander Hamilton. Fenno’s newspaper served as a counterweight to the Republican slant of the National Gazette.

Burns sums up Fenno’s journalistic philosophy: “He would cajole his readers, deceive them when necessary, rile them when advisable; he would praise public officials and other newspaper editors who agreed with his positions and drub those who did not, assailing their intelligence, their character, their patriotism; and he would publish the records of legislative proceedings that advanced the federalist agenda while either ignoring or deriding or sometimes even falsifying documents to the contrary.”

Such things were to be found on the “news” pages, not the opinion page. Entire newspapers were opinion pages. To have a page designated “opinion” would have been redundant.

The 1790s were, according to historian John Ferling, “one of America’s most passionate decades.” The nation’s journalism, notes Burns, could not help but reflect the heat.

One paper, named the Philadelphia Aurora, engaged in what Burns describes as “journalistic savagery ... not caring about accuracy or even the illusion of it.” The Aurora published a series of letters supposedly written by George Washington while he was encamped at Valley Forge during the winter of 1777-1778. The letters “portrayed Washington as a lukewarm patriot at best, a loyal subject of George III at worst, and at least a skeptic concerning independence.”

It would have been a great story if true, but Washington wrote no such letters. That didn’t bother Benjamin Franklin Bache (Ben Franklin’s grandson and the owner of the Aurora), who was not about to retract something that served his anti-Washington political ends.

Journalism survived, even displaying responsibility on occasion. The public can sort out the good from the bad and ugly. They don’t need politicians doing it for them.

[Cal Thomas is America’s most widely syndicated op-ed columnist, appearing in more than 600 national newspapers. He is the author of more than 10 books and is a FOX News political contributor since 1997. Email Cal Thomas at tmseditors@tribune.com.] ©2011 TRIBUNE MEDIA SERVICES, INC.

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He asked the question whether or not the Tucson shooter listened to Rush Limbaugh and then shot people. He said many listened to Rush Limbaugh and didn't shoot people.

Is Thomas under the assumption that all those precious listeners of Limbaugh don't talk to thousands of others, repeating Limbaugh's spiel?

Even the people who the shooter ran into, professors, cops, etc., may have said the same things as Limbaugh in his presence. One can hear a dozen far right radio and TV talkers mention Limbaugh as someone to follow--every day!

People who like such as Limbaugh do influence others.

Of course, there are leftists who also say unnecessary things, especially about Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, etc.

carbonunit52's picture

[quote]Even if Loughner had watched and listened to conservative media, what does that prove?[/quote]
Nothing.
The issue that the good sheriff in Arizona was referring to is not like a mathmatical theorem, it is that the constant barrage of negative and hateful rhetoric from the conservative media promotes negative and hateful results in the general populace. Think the re-election of George W Bush. The attempted assasination of a Democrat in a predominately conservative area is being presented as being not politically motivated by hate and fear, the very stock in trade of the conservative media. Denial is a wonderful antidote for reality shock. The phrases "It was not our fault", "liberals do it too", "it used to be worse" sound like denial to me, actually of the sort that you hear from a kid who is trying to squirm out of blame.

The wheels fell off of Cal's logic wagon after the paragraph that was quoted anyway. If he were an aspiring writer, I would tell him not to quit his day job.

The assassination business sticks in my craw.

There were knuckleheads on here hours after the shooting blathering about how the shooting was not politically motivated....I mean, denial is a core tenet of the Fayette Republican power structure, but how can a man who shoots a Congresswoman at an official event NOT be seen as a political assassination attempt?

...if in one's mind the political objection is the alien invaders implanting untraceable silicone brain chips into your righteous, peace-keeping robot army, is it still considered politically motivated?

JeffC's picture

Cal's playing the poor persecuted Palin card again. Is there anything anywhere we can question Sarah about without her turning it into persecution of her? The left is trying to silence her in a huge conspiracy. If you don't believe it, check her website. Sign up to track her on Twitter. Track her on your iPhone. Check her out on Fox. Look at her Facebook page. She's being persecuted into silence on every type of media outlet in existence.

PTC Observer's picture

Is the best thing to happen to the Democrat Party since......well...Obama. If she runs and splits the Republicans in will ensure another Obama four years.

Best thing for the Democrats to do is to say how worried they are about her to give her the nod by the Republican leadership.

IMHO

republicans have developed a distinct knack for advocating unappealing candidates for president

Observerofu's picture

Palin was accused of being responsible the very DAY of the shooting she remained silent so much so Keith Oberman said she as much as admitted she is at fault for not responding and then when she responds you guys say she is playing the victim card.

"

January 19, 2011
Mud Libel
by Ann Coulter

The same people who had blamed Sarah Palin for the massacre at the Tucson Safeway and then taunted her for her "silence" were enraged when she responded.
Last Tuesday, the night before Palin responded, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann mocked Palin's silence throughout his show:

-- "And why is the ever self-promoting Miss Palin so quiet?"
-- "And it's quiet, isn't it?"
-- "It's too quiet."
-- "The silence is deafening from the great Northwest.""

Well here is a newsflash she is a victim. If you are accused of MURDER then by your silence accused of confirming the accusers are correct and then when you protest your innocence accused again then what is left but victim-hood status?

You libs are are one of kind and Thank God not that many of you left.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-6068237-503544.html

You people start blaming the right on day one. When we came out and said wait one darn minute you guys have done the exact same thing, all of a sudden the very act of defending our speech is shown by you as proof positive we are at fault. So much so that even the defense that you have done the same and WORSE is used by dolts as a hammer in which to beat the horse with.

Fortunately America is not as stupid as you libs believe them to be.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/137161-poll-rhetoric-sh...

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

kevink's picture

You get big points with me. Now, with respect to blame and vitriol, do we really want to quote Ann "the terrorists should have flown into the New York Times Building" Coulter?

Think of it this way. The way you live your life.... and the way I live mine..... There is not one person who may be shot tomorrow by a deranged idiot who can say they were mentioned by name and targeted by you or I. Sarah Palin cannot say that. No family member will be able to say their loved one felt threatened by what you or I said. Sarah Palin cannot say that. The momma grizzly had to see Rep Giffords on numerous occasions say she felt threatened by Palin's rhetoric. yet she was not the bigger person. Sorry, my friend, but I know exactly who the victim was last week.

Cheers, mate. I hope to have a less polluting ride soon too.

Vote Mytmite in 2012!

Observerofu's picture

100+ mpc and I got her up to 80 on the interstate and she felt like she could go a lot faster. I just silently pass right by the old gas stations.

Anyway onto Palin. I know who the victims are as well. The true victims are those in Tucson. That is why I found it very distasteful that the blame game started within hours of the shooting and as usual the left started blaming the right for the shootings.

It showed up here just 2 days later with bacons pronouncement of blame
http://www.thecitizen.com/blogs/cal-thomas/01-04-2011/she-warned-us
In comment#67

To try to lay blame at someones feet other than the perpetrator is excusing their actions and yes making a victim of someone else.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

Gort's picture

OofU, about this “Nissan Leaf”, did you qualify for the $7.5k tax credit?

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

Observerofu's picture

My Accountant said that I should qualify.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

Gort's picture

OofU, well now, it sounds like we caught someone sucking first teat on the Obama stimulus package? How does that stimulus milk taste, Mmmm, Mmmm good?

8 - )

Tell us again how you like to pay your own way without any help from the nasty old government!

I wouldn’t be surprised if the next thing you told us was you smoke Cuban cigars?

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

Observerofu's picture

there is one big difference. You see I PAY taxes. Unlike 47% of Americans I am of the Productive class. The Recipitant class drinks that milk only AFTER I feed the pig.

So if I get the chance to get some of MY money back I will take the opportunity to do so. Unlike Warren Buffet I think I pay enough in taxes.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

kevink's picture

All of this snooping into yall's conversation has suddenly made me very thirsty.... and hungry. Where's that Jimmy dean's?

Vote Mytmite in 2012!

You might be much happier if you took a little ride down GA 85S to Haralson, next X-roads after Senoia, stop in Williams Grocery and get some of their Fresh Sausage (either link or bulk). They've got Smoked too.

Gort's picture

OofU, you don’t have to justify your reasons for sucking money out of the government to me. I would have done the same thing.

I just hope you take some of that money and either hire another employee or take one from part time to full time. That’s what incentives are for, to stimulate the economy, right?

One more question about the Nissan Leaf, okay? Since you don’t buy gasoline at the pump how do you pay your road taxes?

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

carbonunit52's picture

I never thought about the lack of road taxes on an electric vehicle. That like really appeals to the tax rebel in me.

Observerofu's picture

as long as you can find an extension cord you can move out silently.
I recently added a solar charger to the car. Gives me on average an additional 25 miles per chrg.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

Gort's picture

OofU, taking a free ride on the nation’s highway plus a 7.5k tax incentive! One would think that would take the sting out of complaining about taxes. Some folks just never get enough do they?

Hey, before I forget, do you smoke those Cuban cigars?

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

...but the argument could be made that even if observer found a way to legally make his tax liability $0, he's contributing his labor, as well as supporting himself, which is a far cry from someone who contributes nothing and requires others to support him/her. observer's annual cost to his abstract neighbor = $0. unemployed's annual cost to abstract neighbor >$0.

but let's just scrap all this fighting over wealth envy and tax only purchases of new goods! come on! who's with me?!

.......any investment purchase such as stocks, bonds, annuities, bank stock, mutual funds, purchases of companies, (new goods to the buyer), art, jewelry, Yachts, Oprah's Network (OWN), land purchases (Sany), school buses, farms, used cars, new cars, pickup trucks, guns, cannons, automatic 50 caliber mounted and computer aimed thunderballs, building a skyscraper (new) (by Trump), prescriptions, ATC medicine, adoption costs, buying a child from a surrogate mother, contracts involving money exchanged--instance a new pool, and of course private transactions between them what got stuff?

Could you let me see your list of exceptions to a new tax system---could it be as long as the present one?

To drop corporate taxes, higher taxes on those making over 500,000, and other exceptions, and expecting the working people to pay for it all with a big sales tax will bring out the pitchforks, tar and feathers and rails!

Georgia even wants to put the food tax back on us--the rich eat out anyway! Don't forget the SPLOSTS, etc., to build railroads and buy buses and drivers (which will also be added to the sales tax, and if you stay in a hotel anywhere about 15-20% will soon be added to your bill.

More tax on the soon to be $5 gas, alcohol, cigarettes, soft drinks, and even doctor bills will also be added as a sales tax---(not an income tax).

TEAS, you ain't seen nothin yet! Your cause is hopeless, we must balance the budget and fight the Muslims, etc.

since your question was really more spew than serious inquiry, i'll waste only enough of my time to sufficiently clarify what was behind "new goods". i meant to assert that rather than taxing earning, taxing spending is IMO much more preferable. i personally would like to see the fair tax enacted. this particular legislation (hr25 if you wish to read it) abolishes ALL current federal taxes. this includes, but is not limited to personal, capital gains, and corporate (including inter- and intra-business) taxes, to answer a few of your above examples. hopefully you can understand the phrase "all federal" and fill in your own blanks. all forms of federal tax would be replaced by a single-rate national retail sales tax for final point of purchase retail sales.

i'd also like to point out that this is not a "teas" piece of legislation; it's non-partisan.

It is "non-partisan," only in the sense of two groups: TEAS and Right Wing!

Why would the average American wage-earner want a huge sales tax on everything he purchased---and then get a monthly welfare check from the government to cover grocery tax but not a home, a car, or gas to run it.

That would be about 80,000,000 (million) checks a month. (this would create about a million more government jobs to replace the million fired in the IRS.

Big for check-cashing companies charging $10-15 to cash them!

Can you imagine the discrimination against all those millions getting a welfare check?

Simplify the current tax is all that is needed.

Not sure if Corporations give a rat about those eighty million, just as long as they pay nothing in taxes.

Are we a people nation or a things nation?

Gort's picture

crzy_sqrl, I accept OofU’s argument about his justification. What I was asking him to do is defend a statement he made to me on another post, not related to this string. Just giving him a little tweak on the nose, that's all. Believe me, he knows how to tweak back! 8 - )

Are you an advocate for the "Fair Tax?"

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

yes.

Gort's picture

crzy_sqrl, no trap but can you tell me why you think that is the way to go?

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

aptly named, it's fair. same rate, across the board, and no one has to know how much i make other than my employer and myself. americans have renewed incentive to work. corporations have new incentive to grow, move manufacturing back to this country, and/or hire more workers. can't moan about illegal immigrants not paying taxes any more. the wealthy pay for their extravagance, and the poor are empowered with a tax-free means of acquiring goods (buy used). a fourth grader can understand the tax code. not to mention h.r. 25 provides every u.s. citizen with a monthly prebate check equivalent to the fair tax paid on essentials (up to poverty-level). unicorns spring from landfills, and dogs crap baby bunnies.

Gort's picture

crzy_sqrl, if the “Fair Tax” can make, “unicorns spring from landfills, and dogs crap baby bunnies.” Then I would like it too! 8 - )

I can understand the desire for privacy but what would be the new incentive to work?

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

to keep all your paycheck... and there are (eventually) more jobs

Gort's picture

czy_sqrl, thank you for replying to my questions about the “Fair Tax.”

Can you tell me what you mean by, “you get to keep all your paycheck…?” I’m asking because I don’t see how keeping your paycheck would eventually create more jobs.

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

You really think that your boss or company is going to give you a big raise in the amount of the old deductions?
Never will happen.

Observerofu's picture

and I pay property taxes and I pay City, County, State and Federal taxes.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

Gort, they sure do talk a good game, though, don't they?

Tax breaks for working poor that reduce overall tax burden = <strong>BAD</strong>

Tax breaks for "Productive class" that reduce overall tax burden = <strong>DERP</strong>

kevink's picture

Is that when the government teet is providing FARM SUBSIDIES, this never seems to be a problem on the other side of the aisle. I guess some types of government bailouts (e.g. those that hit closer to our own homes) are okay. It just goes to show that many "principled arguments" really boil down to politics as usual.

Vote Mytmite in 2012!

So the government has teets, not teats nor tetes?

Yes, when something hits closer to home it IS OK!

Ever notice how all these right wingers here want all of the state and Federal free money they can possibly get, but want no regulations with it?

I think the government has feed station hypocriteats--not teets.

Did Governor Deal say how he was going to pay back the maybe billion dollars Georgia borrowed from D.C. for unemployed workers beer money?

Or is that "off the books" just as was the middle-east wars? Wanta bet if President Obama is reelected that maybe half of that 14 trillion dollar debt the USA owes will be gone by end of that term?

Gort's picture

r_nda_bt, you’re just having a good old time playing with that word aren’t you? 8 - )

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

Cyclist's picture

Not to worry about those farm subsidies. By the time all the fraudulent Pigford I, II, and III claims are paid there will be no money left.

Caution - The Surgeon General has determined that constant blogging is an addiction that can cause a sedentary life style.

Gort's picture

Kevin: the country has been on a ten year spending binge for a lot of reasons. Everyone knows it. We live in a democracy, so we’re all responsible for it.

Now the time has come to pay the bar bill. All we’re doing with our politics is fighting over who is going to pay and how much. So, I think you’re correct.

[quote] It just goes to show that many "principled arguments" really boil down to politics as usual. [/quote]

But, I still want to win! 8 - ).

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

Observerofu's picture

not a Republic in which this Country was designed.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

perhaps my understanding falls short, but:

democracy is one man=one vote and majority wins (a.k.a. mob rule) where the people (not representatives thereof) maintain supreme power

republic is individuals vote for one man who has one vote, and the governing body composed of those elected reps has supreme power

democratic republic is a hybrid where theoretically the mob retains control through limited terms and the re-election process

no? i mean surely you're not arguing that the shift in the u.s. population of more pups than teats, to borrow a popular metaphor, hasn't changed the process. ...just the result: the really scary, soul-trading outcome of repopulating with government worshippers.

still, though, what we're experiencing is the inevitable decline of a democratic republic. the whole human nature derived "hey! i can vote myself a portion of the public coffer larger than that which i've contributed! government rocks!!" tendency toward highest-yield-with-smallest-effort.

Observerofu's picture

We have lost the Republic.

Just as Benjamin Franklin said when asked what form of Government we had..."A Republic, If You Can Keep It".

Without going into the differences here (I assume you already know) our current form of Government has devolved into the Government control of it's people instead of the peoples control of Government.

Here is a layman's definition:
http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/politics/democracy/3388-Republic-Democ...

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

Gort's picture

OofU, you say we lost the Republic? Really, were did it go?

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

Observerofu's picture

Sorry just saw this.

Like I told Crazy squirrel as soon as the Government started the control of people instead of the people controlling the Government.

Laws against texting and walking.

Laws about table salt.

Laws about transfats.

Laws about nutrition facts on a big mac.

Then we have the taking of our money for Wine Trains, why pig poop stinks etc...

A pure democracy is mob rule. That is not what we were supposed to be.

The problem? The "mob" has become the Washington DC elites that feel they know best.

We heard it from the politicians themselves during the healthcare (sic)debates.

"Eric Massa – I will vote against the interest of My District! "

http://monroerising.com/2009/08/18/eric-massa-i-will-vote-against-the-in...

Just one example among many acts. He just happened to actually say it.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

You made me laugh this morning, who could read about Mr Massa and not remember his "Tickle Fest"!! -GP

Gort's picture

OofU, I’m not sure what you mean by a “pure” democracy. If you mean a “direct” democracy than I would agree that can look like “mob rule”.

Now the problem with that argument is we don’t have a direct democracy. The President is elected by the Electoral College, Supreme Court Judges are not elected at all, so that’s two of our three branches of government that are not directly elected through direct democracy.

It is true that we do elect members of the Senate and House of Representatives. Isn’t this what the Constitution allows?

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

Gort's picture

CPB, it certainly puts OofU in a dilemma, don’t it?

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

Observerofu's picture

Do you pay taxes?
If so if you overpay do you want a refund?
Is a refund for overpayment of taxes being on the dole?

Simple even ole bacon can noodle that one.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

Gort's picture

OofU, its okay with me if you want to use tax policy as justification for:

[quote] ... sucking first teat on the Obama stimulus package… [/quote]

I just wanted you to tell us again how you like to pay your own way without any help from the nasty old government?

Remember: If you think Social Security and Medicare are worth saving, vote Democratic.

Observerofu's picture

and classify them as a welfare recipitant if you want to, however I feel that any taxpaying citizen that can get a little of their money back is just smart economics.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

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