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Cal Thomas's picture

At the 2004 Democratic National Convention in Boston, Sen. Barack Obama said, “... There is not a black America and a white America and Latino America and Asian America — there is the United States of America.”

Those were welcome and commendable words. Unfortunately, they appear to be only words. Since then, Obama has divided us along race and class lines more than any modern president.

Some of his strongest, high-profile supporters in the black community are now saying that Obama’s race, alone, should be enough for black voters to vote for his re-election.

Krissah Thompson of The Washington Post reports that on “The Tom Joyner Morning Show,” which has an estimated 8 million radio listeners, Joyner, who is black, said, “Stick together, black people.” The show reaches one in four African-American adults.

Rev. Al Sharpton, who also has a radio show and a gig on MSNBC, admonished blacks who have been critical of the president, “I’m not telling you to shut up. I’m telling you: Don’t make some of us have to speak up.”

The attempt at poetry is getting tiresome, Al. Why don’t you leave that to Jesse Jackson?

Joyner went even further on his blog, writes Thompson: “Let’s not deal with the facts right now,” he said. “Let’s deal with just our blackness and pride — and loyalty. We have the chance to re-elect the first African-American president, and that’s what we ought to be doing. And I’m not afraid or ashamed to say that as black people, we should do it because he’s a black man.”

Try that in football. Never mind that the black quarterback continues to throw interceptions or drop the ball, keep him in the game simply because he’s black. If that happened, he’d be booed until the coach pulled him off the field, and those boos wouldn’t just be coming from whites.

In the same week the memorial to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was dedicated in Washington, Joyner and Sharpton are saying that Barack Obama should be judged not on the content of his character and policies, but rather on the color of his skin. How sad. How racist.

If a black president cannot be held accountable for his policies and must receive the votes of African-Americans solely because of his race, then all of the marching for equal rights has been for nothing.

The question ought to be this: are African-Americans, indeed, are all Americans, better off than they were when Barack Obama took office?

By any objective standard, the answer must be “no.” How do black people expect their circumstances to improve if Obama is elected for another four years? If they conclude they will not, why not vote for someone who can create the conditions under which more of them might get a job, for example? Black unemployment is 16.7 percent, the highest it’s been in 27 years.

Sharpton and Joyner don’t have to worry too much about their financial futures. But too many African-Americans remain mired in conditions that have characterized many in their community for decades. Why would they want to continue their lifestyles out of “pride” and “loyalty” when the Democratic Party has been disloyal to them and a better way is available?

Recent Washington Post-ABC News polls reveal a decline in the number of blacks with “strongly favorable” views of the president and his efforts to improve the economy. What people like Joyner and Sharpton fear is a loss of a place at the political table, a table that has been set far more elegantly for them than for too many of the African-Americans for whom they claim to speak.

What the slide in Obama’s support in the African-American community demonstrates is that increasing numbers of black people are beginning to understand they have been played for suckers by the Democratic Party.

They are right to feel this way. Their loyalty should not be to a party, but to themselves, their families and their best interests, which lie outside a welfare system that has locked too many of them into dependence and an addiction to a government check. What they need instead is a reality check.

[Cal Thomas is America’s most widely syndicated op-ed columnist, appearing in more than 600 national newspapers. He is the author of more than 10 books and is a FOX News political contributor since 1997. Email Cal Thomas at] ©2011 TRIBUNE MEDIA SERVICES, INC.


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JeffC's picture

Cal Thomas and the Republicans are stupid on race issues and we Democrats appreciate it very much.

Herman Cain said that he "left the Democratic plantation a long time ago."

Tea Party congressman Rep. Allen West said "So you have this 21st-century plantation that has been out there where the Democratic Party has forever taken the black community for granted and you have established certain black leaders who are nothing more than the overseers of the plantation... "

Lloyd Marcus, songwriter of the American Tea Party Anthem, raves "White massas Lawrence O’Donnell, Janeane Garofalo and the Democratic Party leadership have instructed their black “slave control” enforcers/overseers to “Stop Cain! NOBODY, escapes the Liberal Democrat Slave Plantation! NOBODY!!!”. So a posse of black overseers consisting of Harry Belafonte, Tavis Smiley, Morgan Freeman, Al Sharpton and other blacks who are loyal to their white liberal democrat massas are on a mission to destroy runaway slave, Herman Cain."

All of which is not only bunk but extremely alienating to blacks. Black people identify with the Democratic Party not because they are ignorant and stupid, which is the implication of the types of statements cited above. Only six black Republicans have been elected to Congress since the 1971 while the Democrats have elected 123. Edward Brooke was the only black Senator elected in modern times. Huge numbers of black mayors have been elected by Democrats and only a small handful by Republicans. The Democrats have earned their loyalty by sharing power.

Not that I'm complaining. Far from it. The Republicans should keep up the "plantation" talk. Keep accusing black people of being so stupid that they still embrace a slave mentality. Keep talking about their "massas".

We need all the help we can get.

They have to run as Republicans in order to be elected. This is a nation of free will, and people are free to choose which party they identify with.

<a href="">Blacks and the Democratic Party</a>

JeffC's picture

My point is that there are very valid reasons that blacks identify with the Democratic Party and it is not because they are ignorant of history or stupid. They have assessed the situation and made a perfectly valid and reasonable choice. The Dems already start with an advantage by being provably willing to include blacks in the Party, nominate them, elect them, share power, address their political concerns, etc. Starting out with that unlevel playing field, what do the Republicans do? Discuss the perfectly valid concerns some blacks have with the Democratic Party and offer alternatives or try to engage in a reasonable dialog? No. The overwhelming voice from the right is that blacks are nescient fools, so stupid that the Democrats have tricked them somehow into remaining on the Democratic plantation, unable to see that they are being duped by their Democratic "massas", witless to the point of knowingly or unknowingly allowing themselves to voluntarily becoming slaves again, this time to a political party. Look at your avatar, " for Cain to prove you're not stupid". And if I don't vote for Cain?

You're avatar doesn't offend me and I am not trying to single you out. I've had WAY to much experience to be offended by what people say and how they say it. I know people will viciously disagree with me on some issues and will attack my family on others. I couldn't care less; it's just a fact of politics and has been for me for almost 60 years. In my life, I have my opinions and if other people disagree, well, all I need is 50% plus one to win and winning is the point, not to mention the best revenge. Most people don't think like that. They are horrified if someone says derogatory things about them or their family. They are indignant if they think someone else thinks they are ignorant or stupid. I can pretty much guarantee that black voters do not think they are on a Democratic plantation, subservient slaves to their "massas". They see the selection of that type of phraseology as deliberately provocative and being accused of holding that mindset extremely insulting and intentionally contemptuous.

Anyway, I'm beating a dead horse and for too long. I'm just amazed at how the Rs seemingly go out of their way to alienate such a large voter block and at how long they have been doing it. We Dems will take it though and we will exploit it to harden one of our core constituencies, thankyouverymuch.


Republicans believe in the responsibility of the individual, while the left preaches the typical socialist mob groupthink mentality that appeals to the weak of mind.

JeffC's picture

The socialism charge kind of loses its meaning when your party applies it to public schools and building highways and the claim to a belief in individual responsibility is hard to justify when your party defines itself by denying a woman's reproductive rights and legislating who can marry whom, but these are topics for another time.

Have a good week.

The "racism" charge loses its meaning just because we didn't vote for or agree with Obama's socialist policies.

<a href="">Obama Says--White Folk's Greed Runs a World In Need</a>

The Wedge's picture

Socialism is more of an economic system or political thought where the public controls means of production and there is a strong safety net that transfers a significant portion of wealth to underpriviledged or disadvantaged. School and highway construction exist in both communist, socialist, or mixed economies such as the US. I do find it interesting that you point out the confusing messages of individual responsibility (or conservative) people. The converse is true for liberals as well. A liberal philosophy of group enabling, collective determinations that focuses upon the dispossessed or trod upon seems to run counter with an individual decision such as abortion with the destruction of the ultimate of the dispossessed--the baby/fetus. Not all leanings make sense or are ideologically pure. Even if you choose to believe so. Marriage is an interesting institution that seems to have undergone definition change recently. Other legal terms have changed over time as well such as "natural born citizen"

Jeff has much better insight on 'black politics' than Cal Thomas. From the New York Times:

<cite>Despite a school of thought in Washington that Mr. Obama’s support among blacks has weakened because of the poor economy and a sense of unmet expectations, interviews and public opinion surveys show that his standing remains remarkably strong among African-Americans.</cite>

And from Jeff:

[quote]They are indignant if they think someone else thinks they are ignorant or stupid. I can pretty much guarantee that black voters do not think they are on a Democratic plantation, subservient slaves to their "massas". They see the selection of that type of phraseology as deliberately provocative and being accused of holding that mindset extremely insulting and intentionally contemptuous[/quote]

Right on Jeff!!!.

kevink's picture


Vote Mytmite in 2012!

kevink's picture

Work with Herman Cain, and if he finds you attractive, he just may behave badly enough for you to secure a five-figure payoff. Kind of like an OReilly Loofah situation. Some will think my comments are below the belt, but this is reality. If you have twice been on the wrong end of sexual harassment investigations that resulted in "victims" being paid alot of money, that is relevant to your character. Making voters aware of this is not a "liberal attack," it is a smart part of the vetting process.

Sucks for those with Cain avatars though. Hopefully they haven't wasted too much on campaign donations.

Vote Mytmite in 2012!

JeffC's picture

I've been hearing all the talk shows blame the Cain accusations as an attack by liberals without a single shred of evidence being offered. Why would the liberals care one way or the other. Cain isn't going to be nominated so what would be the point. This stuff is vintage Perry. It will eventually come out that a Perry staffer leaked it. They are the ones doing the opposition research.

kcchiefandy's picture

...from good 'ol boy Bill Clinton! At least Cain wasn't on the state or federal payroll when - allegedly - his indescretion took place; Clinton was just a national embarrassement... But then we could go on all day with politicians who practiced the art of infidelity. I wonder how Edwards' new family is doing, or Newt's old one?! Oh, these silly, silly men...

kevink's picture

The lesson Herman has taken is what the definition of "is" is. He is doing the word game between "agreement "and "settlement". The lesson he SHOULD have taken was defining "consensual" vs non-consensual. Mentioning Clinton won't save Cain. His "Beat Obama with a Cain" campaign never even got airborne due to his self inflicted Injuries.

Vote Mytmite in 2012!

kcchiefandy's picture

...but he's not going to be the GOP candidate, anyway - more or less media food, like the whore Kardasian.

JeffC's picture


hutch866's picture

a little terse aren't we?

I yam what I yam

JeffC's picture

I was just feeling sorry for Rush who called the Cain story “an unconscionable, racially stereotypical attack on an independent, self-reliant conservative black because for him that behavior is not allowed.” And Ann Coulter who said this was “another high-tech lynching. There’s nothing liberals fear more than a black conservative.” And Laura Ingraham, who said “Doesn’t this all sound so familiar? A black man who thinks for himself. He needs to be put in his place, a lot of people think. Time to put this man in, hate to say it, the back of the bus.” And Brent Bozell who said that “anyone in the press that gives this story oxygen” is hypocritical. And Cain's spokesman J.D. Gordon who said the story was "dredging up thinly sourced allegations” and “spreading rumors that never stood up to facts.”

Must be embarrassing for them to crank up the echo chamber all day blaming those darn liberals and that nasty old main stream media then have Cain come out and admit he was lying about the payoffs after all.

kevink's picture

Of the GOP's race problem:

"Our blacks are better than their blacks."

Are we pets now?

Vote Mytmite in 2012!

The Wedge's picture

Will there be another race to come along and take over for us? Maybe martians could do better than we've done. We'll make great pets! We'll make great pets!

NUK_1's picture

Haven't heard that song from Jane's Addiction in quite a while.

The Wedge's picture

I think the version I was thinking was the Porno for Pyros version. Janes' version was good too. Not too much of that song you could actually quote on this blog tho ;)

Edited: Porno for Pyros were made up of several from Janes Addiction after they broke up. Hence my confusion.

NUK_1's picture

That was Porno for Pyro's, post Jane's Addiction Breakup #1. I can faintly remember the video now as MTV really liked it back then when they occasionally played music vids.

JeffC's picture

GOP bling is more like it.

Mike King's picture

Reading your posts one could believe that the two of you consider each and every individual that leans conservative to be racist. Surely the ninety some percent of the black vote would not vote along racial lines, now would they?
Notwithstanding that it was the party of Lincoln that enacted that Emancipation Proclamation back around 1863. Surely, I understand that times change, but can you honestly say that the Congressional Black Caucus is a non biased entity?

Please, enough with the soundbites.

kevink's picture

Republican talking heads blamed liberals and played the race card. I'm quoting your party. If you want the sound bites to stop, contact the sources.

Vote Mytmite in 2012!

Mike King's picture

Not disputing what you're saying, I'm simply tired of all the BS from either side of that former swamp called the District of Columbia. There's a time and place for the race card, most of us would agree, but it's continual use amounts to nothing more than Chicken Little's decree of the sky is falling. We soon come to pay it no mind which we can ill afford to happen.

Perhaps we all should be prepared to prove bias prior to making such an accusation.

Great time Saturday.

JeffC's picture

What's racist got to do with it? I don't think most conservatives are racist. The thought never crossed my mind.

Yes all those groups are biased. It seems you think that my not being able to claim the CBC unbiased proves a point but I'm not quite sure what that point was.

Lincoln? The Emancipation Proclamation? This ain't your great-great grandfather's GOP. (Sorry about that. I just had to stick it in).

kcchiefandy's picture

...sounds eerily like Edwards and Clinton, and we've all seen those train wrecks, but then again we have physical evidence on those suckers!

Robert W. Morgan's picture

You make perfect sense - race is simply another social issue that should have nothing to do with Republican or conservative or Democrat values.

I firmly believe most voters - black, white and all others are fiscally conservative and socially liberal or at least centrist. Those voters want smaller government, lower taxes, fewer people on the dole, more jobs, less illegal immigration, no nation-building or costly wars and they don't care who you sleep with or marry or whether you have an abortion or not (and that should be your choice - even though having one makes you a pagan)and they sure don't care what color your skin is.

Of course both parties try to attract those centrist voters with fear instead of principles and they both think they can't afford to stop the crap and fear-mongering and back off of it. It is really sad that we use so much energy and money to demonize others and gain power.

Imagine how productive this country would be if the politicians started pandering to those in the center while ignoring those self-serving dopes on the far right and far left. Or "Imagine there's no heaven; imagine if you will"

Live free or die!

kevink's picture

Nope..... not so much.

Vote Mytmite in 2012!

kevink's picture

Cal lost credibility when he stated his thesis that the President has divided us..... and then as evidence used the words of other men to show its Obama's fault. Classic obfuscation 101. Note that his quote from The President is inclusive, and the only evidence you need are his spokesmen (both have been white gentlemen), his VP, and the majority of his staff. Here is a fun task. Try to lexus nexus or google a Cal tongue lashing of Rush Limbaugh for the "Barack the Magic Negro" song. Or any of the "plantation" remarks of repubs.
Why oh why do blacks not support the party which wants to raise tax rates on the poorest and cut rates on the wealthiest? Why do I not support the party that would force my non-driving brother to go get a GOVERNMENT (which republicans supposedly don't want too big) photo ID before he can vote?

Jeff. Great USA Today article this weekend on Latino republicans trying to convince Latino voters not to listen to what the GOP candidates are saying. They just want Latinos to KNOW republican and latino values are the same IN SPITE OF the electric fence references.
Dear GOP: Thanks for the help in 2012, but I'd rather you guys listen to the alarms kristol and huntsman and Rove are sounding. A return to reason would be welcomed by me.

Vote Mytmite in 2012!

Please refresh my memory. When have minorities been given the opportunity to vote a 'straight racist ticket'? I think that the 'majority' have had that opportunity once or twice since the founding of our country. When Obama was running, many blacks said that they would hold his feet to the fire to deliver - and many are. The Republican Party of today is not offering programs that are in the best interest for the families of the middle class, minorities, etc. and that's the truth as many 'blacks' see it.

[quote]At the 2004 Democratic National Convention in Boston, Sen. Barack Obama said, “... There is not a black America and a white America and Latino America and Asian America — there is the United States of America.”
Those were welcome and commendable words. Unfortunately, they appear to be only words. Since then, Obama has divided us along race and class lines more than any modern president.[/quote]

The division became acceptable when McConnell announced that the Republican goal was to make the Obama (the first African American president) a 'one-term president. That statement united the 'racists' on both sides of the issue. Then came the insane program to discredit his education, birthright, etc., etc., etc. Now we have a black Republican ahead of the 7 candidates who want to represent the Republican Party in the next election for president. Blacks will not unite to vote for a black Republican for president - you can take that to the bank.

kcchiefandy's picture

...we hear 'African-American' all the time - along w/ other racial identifiers. Please refer to me as 'Czecho-Franco-Germanic American', please! When we can start calling each other 'Americans', and only that, then I'll believe the racial divide is closed. Propagating such terms only keep the rift open - it needs to stop.

No disagreement - but the distinction between black and white started long ago.
If you're interested, research the actions taken by some plantation owners after the emancipation of slaves. There appeared to be a movement for poor whites and newly emancipated slaves to unite. This is not what the wealthy white landowners wanted. So - even if you were poor and white, under Jim Crow law, you still had more rights than 'blacks'. Black, colored, Negro, the N word was always perceived as negative - so African-American became acceptable to SOME blacks. No matter your heritage - you are 'white'. Sad - but we're getting closer to celebrating all as Americans.

kcchiefandy's picture

...but I'm not concerned w/ ancient history, just the future of this nation. 'Acceptable' is not a term I'm concerned with - 'American' is; you're either a citizen of this nation - aka an 'American', or you're not. It's really that simple for me. You can enjoy your heritage & history all you want, but in today's world, living in THIS nation, naturalized or born here, you are an American - nothing more, nothing less, IMHO.

kevink's picture

Why do I not hear conservatives urging Rebel flag flyers to fly the 50-star version? You don't much here "proud southerners" chastised for not just being Americans. I smell a very selective controversy brewing in this pot. Any opinion?

Vote Mytmite in 2012!

Oops! Do you think anyone in this discussion will touch that one? There is such pride in being a 'southerner' - black, white, or green!! Reagan, Nixon, Goldwater and others used/ use that in speeches, etc. Race is not the only issue that is used to divide Americans. Sigh.

kcchiefandy's picture a good point! I don't believe it has quite the divisive impact, but it certainly can crop up, especially in national politics. Again, focusing on being an American first is most important.

kcchiefandy's picture I haven't seen the 'stars & bars' raised anywhere - officially - around here; I've seen many, many more 50-star flags, though. I've seen it in a few beat-up pickup trucks (given that I don't get out to the rural areas here much), though, just about as much as I've seen Malcolm X t-shirts & 'Black Power' fist stickers, or Mexican flag license plates. These are the divisions that I speak of that our citizens need to erase in our nation. Once you become an American, you need to BE an American.

Careful KC. I understand what you are saying, and many who fight side by side with Americans of different backgrounds agree wholeheartedly with you. Some feel that to be American, you must look a certain way, speak without an accent, etc.
When one travels, an American is hopefully recognized for his/ her tolerance and understanding of those who are 'different'.
Unfortunately, in the past, this has not been the case - hence the 'Ugly American' label. Native Americans who were not considered 'Citizens', Japanese Americans, whose families were imprisoned during WWII fought as Americans. No need to repeat what happened to 'black' Americans during and after WWII. That war ended in the 40's. Segregation was a national problem that was not legally ended until the 60's. Until we truly recognize one another as Americans, this hyphenation will continue. What Kevin has done should be standard fare throughout our country. We can disagree as Americans, yet still respect and understand our different points of view. Thank heavens- all Americans do not look alike! We represent our forefathers - and we're proud of the founding fathers/settlers and all who followed them to this country.

kcchiefandy's picture

...that's exactly my point; these lessons of the past are just that, and we need to move forward as Americans and put such separatist, segregationist thought. Of course we're not all the 'same', but we can all be Americans!

I have met many in Fayette County who agree with you. Their words and actions represent the thought that you express. SOME words expressed on this blog do not embrace the future that you foresee. Some general statements made about minorities have been challenged. Some general statements made about whites have been challenged. As long as we ( and I include myself) see persons with their 'race' label rather than their individual actions, ECT, racism will be part of America's identity. Examples: The MLK Memorial was not a 'white' event ; They need to keep their welfare checks in Riverdale and not shop at the Avenue; Have you ever seen a black neighborhood that wasn't trashed?; and mine - I fear all white males in pick-up trucks; My family was refused service at the Waffle House, therefore all Waffle House's in FC segregate. I was surprised at the political division here - and the anti-liberal, anti- Democrat thought. I still am amazed at how American History is interpreted here in the south by some. Anyway, look forward to your response . The 'coffee' proves that those with different viewpoints can enjoy one another's company.

kcchiefandy's picture

...I probably have a different outlook because I didn't experience a lot of the race issues growing up where I did. I can enlighten some with one little tidbit about welfare, though, (and this was about 13-14 yrs ago) - the largest demographic receiving welfare was white, single-parent females. If you've ever been to the rural Midwest, you'd certainly believe it! Oh, btw, I drive a pickup - sorry - don't mean to scare you!

LOL. Some of our best friends drive pick ups. See, I'm growing!

Not too hard to figure out--the majority f us are secure adults who think reasonably and do not insert politics into coffee talk. BTW, Based on what I know and believe, there was only one practicing liberal there and while we on the other side knew that, no one saw any value in making that an issue. Fact is, we mostly deal in personalities, not politics.

kcchiefandy's picture

...because I recently heard a good one - 'Politics is acting for the ugly'! I'm sure you're all attractive, nice folks!

The fact that you and I are having this discussion proves that we have moved on!LOL. This year I have celebrated the status of race relations in Georgia. However, by being engaged in this discussion, we know there is still work to do to arrive at the Americanism that you envision. Understandably Americans do not like to be reminded of an ugly past; nor do Jews or Muslims. . . but when we can all celebrate the erasure of that ugliness in our various histories, we will be proud of the progress that has been made.

kevink's picture

seen white employees working gates at ATL. That's hard to imagine. We have a Georgia State Confederate license plate. Don't think you'll find a Black Panther plate my friend.

The flag flies proudly at Stone Mountain. It flies officially and proudly along highways in Tennessee; There is a HUGE monument outside of Nashville with stars and bars and horses and all. Even GOP front runners like Rick Perry have fought to preserve this symbol of a "divided America" (following your thought process).

GOP operatives revel in courting the very popular "Cuban American" Marco Rubio. Some of the same people fearing "African-American" speak of securing the "Latino" vote by having Cuban-American Marco Rubio as number two on the presidential ticket.

My opinion, is all this talk of having certain people hide or suppress their cultural identity is simply the politics of paranoia. If Native Americans, Italian Americans, Chinese Americans, etc want to celebrate their uniqueness, no better country to exercise that freedom IMHO.

ps. Here is a national database of where you can find State sponsored Confederate Flag license plates, confederate parks, memorials, etc. Kind of hard to miss.

Vote Mytmite in 2012!

kcchiefandy's picture

...but I do think I've seen the plates; I thought it was the GA state flag. I did not know it is flown @ Stone Mtn; only been there twice. I've only been to TN once to whitewater raft. It does seem to be, from what I've heard, an issue between those who look as it as an historical issue (they were a country of their own at one time), and those who see it as a reminder of slavery. Both are understandable, but I've not heard the term 'Confederate-American'. I have no problem cultures 'celebrating their uniqueness', just making that 'uniqueness' their identity. As for your comments about Perry & Rubio - did I say I agreed with those stances/comments? I don't think so...


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