Wednesday, Jul. 1, 2015    Login | Register           

Priority #1 for Republicans

Cal Thomas's picture

For newly empowered congressional Republicans, priority one must be an extension of the Bush tax cuts. There should be enough votes not only from a new Republican majority, but also from some of the decimated and dispirited (and even newly elected) Democrats. If President Obama is smart, he won’t veto the bill.

If the tax cuts are allowed to expire, everyone who gets a paycheck and has taxes withheld is going to see less money in the “net” column starting Jan. 1.

Bloomberg.com has published some calculations. It reports that, according to the Tax Institute at H&R Block, “for a married couple earning $80,000 a year, increased taxes would drain $221.48 in withholding from a semi-monthly paycheck. Married individuals earning $240,000 a year” (just under the $250,000 standard President Obama defines as “rich”) “would lose $557.78 to withholding in a single semi-monthly paycheck.”

Double these figures for a month and multiply by 12 and you quickly see the additional drain on the economy at a time of anemic 2 percent growth.

Another example from Bloomberg: teachers, teacher aides and custodial workers who make from $20,000 to $40,000 per year would lose an estimated $50 per paycheck, which is significant at a time when every dollar counts.

President Obama has been telling us how much is enough for us to make. Instead, we should be telling him how much of our money we will allow government to take and spend. That is the theme emerging from the midterm election.

To further personalize the cost of allowing the tax cuts to expire, visit a handy government cost calculator called www.mygovcost.org. Type in your level of education, age and current income and the calculator will reveal what future taxes are likely to cost (these are estimates as everyone’s circumstances differ).

You will also see how much your money could earn if you invested in the private sector instead of having it go to the federal government. The enormous interest figure should rebut arguments by Democrats who claim reforming Social Security by allowing money to be invested in the stock market would bankrupt the elderly.

There are a number of other credible sources Republicans could use to stop and reverse runaway spending. The Heritage Foundation’s Brian Riedl has identified $343 billion in specific spending cuts the next Congress might enact in the fiscal 2012 budget.

Riedl acknowledges that cutting spending won’t be easy. That’s because every dollar spent by the government attracts self-interested supporters. But he maintains the identified cuts should be achievable. Read his spending cut targets at heritage.org.

The public is in the mood for repairing America’s crumbling financial house. Democrats will have a more difficult time demagoguing spending cuts when they have been primarily (though not entirely) responsible for the ocean of red ink.

The Debt Commission will issue its report on Dec. 1. Many conservatives suspect it will include a call for tax increases. Republicans should say “no” to any tax hikes and focus entirely on government overspending and misspending.

Many of us are ready for strong medicine. “We can’t afford it” still rings in the ears of those old enough to remember what parents or grandparents said when we asked for an expensive toy as a child, or a car at 16.

That Puritan ethic remains in the DNA of many Americans. It is now up to Republicans to get it out and remind us of what fiscal and personal responsibility can do to restore financial solvency.

It may take a while and there will be some discomfort and even pain involved. But in the end, we will all be better off than we are now and much better off than we will be if we fail to reduce our unsustainable debt.

[Cal Thomas is America’s most widely syndicated op-ed columnist, appearing in more than 600 national newspapers. He is the author of more than 10 books and is a FOX News political contributor since 1997. Email Cal Thomas at tmseditors@tribune.com.] ©2010 TRIBUNE MEDIA SERVICES, INC.

Comments

Neither of my kids has employer-paid health coverage--they pay for 100% of it themselves. And my premium went from $411 monthly to $555. You do the math.

Tell me where you can get major medical for $555 a month ($6600/yr.)

So your kids are highly paid undoubtedly. Good for them. What company pays that well but for no insurance? Dad? $10,000 deductible, what?

That's my portion--my former employer picks up the rest as part of my retirement benefit. They claim to pay 75%--I say it's more like 66%.

Well then your employer raised your premiums, Obama didn't!

I didn't think you presented it all straight!

That makes the total premium your $6,600 plus your former employers part $19,800 which equals $26,400 dollars premiums per year!

Better check all those numbers again.

Can your sons afford $26,400 each per year?

Enough for me on this---words are flying irresponsibly everywhere due to Obama.

It was you!

Observerofu's picture

"At the request of Congressional delegations worried about their constituents—call it a public service—WellPoint mined its own actuarial data to model ObamaCare in the 14 states where it runs Blue Cross plans. The study therefore takes into account market and demographic differences that other industry studies have not, such as the one from the trade group America's Health Insurance Plans, which looked at aggregate national trends.

In all of the 14 states WellPoint scrutinized, ObamaCare would drive up premiums for the small businesses and individuals who are most of WellPoint's customers. (Other big insurers, like Aetna, focus on the market among large businesses.) Young and healthy consumers will see the largest increases—their premiums would more than triple in some states—though average middle-class buyers will pay more too."

http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA590.html

"Far from providing "affordable" care for everyone, as President Obama has promised,1 the main health care proposals working their way through Congress would in fact come at a painful price - higher insurance premiums, more and higher taxes, fewer jobs, lower wages, a reduced standard of living and an erosion of privacy and individual liberty."

<strong>We were warned</strong>

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870356720457449903417721206...

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

Mine have remained the same. Anyone else's gone up?

hutch866's picture

Promises? Just trying to get a yes or no answer from Dm, of course if you can point out the other broken promises I've been critical of, but of course you can't because like always you either put words in my mouth, assign values to me, or sometimes just out and out lie. Actually it's kind of troll like how you follow me around on the boards.

I yam what I yam

Your words speak for themselves - not what someone else may or may not attribute to you. You got your answer. . .and choose your words carefully in response. Resorting to belittling someone is something I'm not proud of - and I'm sure you're better than I am!!

hutch866's picture

Where did I belittle you? This post was between Bacon and me, all I asked from you was yes or no. As always though, your condescension is appreciated.

I yam what I yam

[quote]Just trying to get a yes or no answer from Dm,[/quote]

I was responding to the above comment which included 'Dm'. Appreciation noted.

[quote]Twist it around as you always do, but it comes down to DID HE SAY IT.[/quote]

In my dotage, I took this as a belittling statement. Sorry if I misunderstood your intent. Hutch, I'm not here to debate with you or anyone else, just expressing my opinion about what should be done to help the American people.

Cyclist's picture

for that one and he gets the credit for the increased monthly premiums next year in order to cover it.

Caution - The Surgeon General has determined that constant blogging is an addiction that can cause a sedentary life style.

Just received the cost of 2011 premiums - not higher.

Observerofu's picture

My agent just advised me Friday that my per Emp cost will be adjusted 26% higher thanks to BO care.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

My health care insurance premium went up 8% this year; Next year, it goes up by 32%! Just what I needed.

If this is true - and I have no reason to think it's not - then this is an area to be discussed and dealt with (Republicans and Democrats). No need to throw out the baby with the bath water - (the good aspects of the bill with the bad)

He is lying to you! Check around.

There is no such increase for next year caused by congress' new health plan.

Maybe that is why the government wanted to run the plans? Keep the greedy Hospitals, doctors, pill companies, and insurance companies from paying so much dividends?

Observerofu's picture

You seem to still be swinging from trees there chr.

You cannot raise regulations, exemptions and administrative cost without an adjustment to cost downstream.

Do you still think Corporations pay taxes? The more the Government wants to punish those evil profitable businesses the more that cost of taxes and regulations are shifted to the end consumer. That's you chr.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

PTC Observer's picture

You know they keep them lower for Democrats until the reality of the situation is too broad based to deny.

Then the Dems will be looking for a scapegoat, usually the opposition party.

This baby is all Democratic Party a "signature" piece of ......legislation.

[quote]You know they keep them lower for Democrats[/quote]

LOL!! Next time I fill out my insurance papers, I'll put Republican in the 'political party' space. NOT!! :-)

Now take your pill and call your Dr. in the morning little man. How in the world does that move us toward solving the problem of our economic mess - or are you still too intellectually bankrupt that you still need to blame either Bush or Obama? At this point - who cares? We need to balance our budget and get American JOBS! Republicans nor Democrats have come up with an answer - but are too busy fighting each other for the next election.

hutch866's picture

There's the belittling, not from me, but from you. Where did I blame anyone for anything, just asked a simple question? Don't pop a vein. As far the intellectually bankrupt thing, before you hang that tag on me you better examine your own past lady, and you don't even have to look to hard.

I yam what I yam

You win!!

[quote]and you don't even have to look to hard.[/quote]

Difficult to argue with such superior intellect. Bless your heart. Have a nice day.

Earmarks from all quarters are reduced when you reduce taxes! The reason that we all want our pork chop is because we are all required to give a hog to DC. I am not at all happy that $40M of federal dollars (our dollars) PER DAY being 'loaned' to CA to cover their failed social experiment. Take less and we have less reason to expect funds back. Raising taxes on any of us only makes the cycle deeper. It's our money! I earned what I have, nobody in DC earned my money for me.

How about we keep taxes local? If you want to have all of the protections of CA or MA or NY, then we are all free to move there. This is all about freedom vs. allowing a bloated central government Take our money and use it to Enslave us to their will.

Hutch, in fairness, I blv his campaign promise was to "reduce Earmarks to below 1994 levels", not to eliminate them completely.

hutch866's picture

You're right, and it seems to be...well... you make the call...
On Feb. 17, 2010, Taxpayers for Common Sense, a leading watchdog group, released its study of congressional earmarking for fiscal year 2010. For that fiscal year, the group says, appropriations bills contained 9,499 congressional earmarks worth $15.9 billion. The group's "apples-to-apples" comparison found that earmarking increased slightly from the prior year -- from $15.6 billion to $15.9 billion. I believe in 94 the earmarks were 7.8 billion.

I yam what I yam

Oh, no doubt that they still go ape with the Earmarks, all I wanted to do was get the "campaign promise" language cleaned up. I still rate it as "Failure" but also place major blame on individual Representatives & Senators. They have no shame when it comes to raiding the "Taxpayers Bank"--all simply intended to go in their "I Did" book for re-election.

Isakson would have been electd in GA if he had been able to garner ALL of the earmarks made in his name only! (he tried).

He is a republican!

As long s this is allowed by republicans and NOT criticized by name, it will exist.

Kinda like looters dropping stuff on the street from carrying to much, especially hands full of cash, many of those who want the looters hung would scoop up those 50s and take them home.Hypocrites.

Observerofu's picture

The deficit spending and borrowing is on a unsustainable path.

Unhindered spending has increased the deficits to record levels adding $2.7 TRILLION to the National Debt in just the last 2 years alone.

This debt is creating a future that our children will have to bear. WE are robbing their future for OUR gain so that WE can be comfortable now.

Congress needs to cut federal spending sharply and quickly.

Just a blast from the past...
"The problem is spending. The latest ratings by the National Taxpayers Union tell us that during the 2003-04 session, only 13 members of Congress -- a record low number -- voted to actually reduce the overall outlays of the federal government."

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=4017

Bush's record spending COMBINED with the spending created by Congress and now this Administrations love of Government has created the mess we are in.

American's are taxed at every level already. Since our Government has seen fit to make America into a consumer society and force our Manufacturing overseas we need to spend money individually to continue the economic growth. To do this we have to have income commensurate with our expenditures.
This course cannot continue. A correction was bound to happen. This generation and the next will need to become familiar with the word "austere". Austerity is our current future.

A continued increase in taxes to fund Government spending combined with a lack of economic opportunities will continue to sink us into the swamp we find ourselves in.

We have to cut our sacred cows NOW. A phased out slow reduction will be easier to swallow but swallow we all must.

Defense
Medicare
Social Security
Welfare
UNIONS

All should be on the chopping block to some degree. We can no longer afford our "sacred cows" to go on without reigning them in.

America is BROKE and on the verge of bankruptcy. You want socialized healthcare go to Canada. I hear the skiing is great this time of year. But you better hurry they are cutting their "cows" even as we speak.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

Let's see:

Cut 'defense': An open invitation to those who seek to destroy us.

Cut 'Medicare': Can be done by cutting fraud and corruption - but one may find serious fights from those who 'profit'.

Cut 'Social Security: Messing with 'widows and children' is as dangerous as striking out at 'mother and apple pie' - but again, can be cut if the fraud and corruption is seriously addressed.

Cut 'Welfare': That will take some doing - since so many people have been able to stay 'afloat' during this recession because of their 'welfare' check. (Unemployment check)

Cut UNIONS: Not much of a threat in Georgia. But go for it.

Democrats have controlled Congress since Jan 2007--what's that done for us? Earmarks: Mom, be sure to get in line early to get your ticket for that hi-speed rail to Charlotte that will cost all of us around 100M before it's finished--started by the 37M "Grab" by Rep. John Lewis. What? You don't WANT to go to Charlotte? How about just a round-trip (with picnic lunch) for a "day out"? Oh, I see, you'll be riding the "Trolley" downtown from Centennial Park to the King Center, willya? Another waste of dollars. Have fun now, ya'hear!

The big problem now is getting the federal government out of deficit spending. It is possible that the funds for these Southern projects (if coming from the feds) will be part of the painful process of ending the federal deficit. . . and those workers who were going to work on these 'projects' can collect their unemployment. By the way - I live in Fayetteville, drive a car (a habit gained from living in the LA area) and have little use for MARTA or a trolley. I visit the King Center often - since most who visit Atlanta want to go there. (and it doesn't really matter their 'hyphenation' designation.)

Observerofu's picture

and never said it would be. We can no longer afford to allow feel good programs, keeping would be dictators in check and un-controlled spending.

Those "Happy Days" are over. The Fed in particular Benberyankme just Monetized our debt after swearing under oath not to. Do you know what that means?

Inflation. More than likely run away rampant style Wiemar inflation. No one expects this to work so why did they do it?

Should the dollar crash inflation won't be the only thing we have to worry about.

QE2 is designed as an orderly decline of the dollar. Noticed gas prices lately?

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

[quote]Teabaggers have such funny accents...they pronounce "Negro" with two "G"s[/quote]

Ouch! Paints many with a 'broad brush' - but that is how many 'minority' citizens view the Tea Party because of the Don't Tread On Me and other signs that were seen at their rallies. (These signs were prevalent at anti-civil rights rallies)

Observerofu's picture

Do you have any actual facts on that or just homilies?

Did you know that the teaparty fielded 30 BLACK Conservative candidates?

Did you know that 15 of those BLACK candidates won their primaries?

Did you know that 3 of those BLACK candidates won their elections?

Did you know that EVERY BLACK non-incumbent race was backed by the teaparty?

Did you know that I being of the BLACK community is also a Teaparty member as are the other 67 members that regularly go with me to events?

Do you even know what the Gadsden flag means or symbolizes?

Probably not.

The continued use of this issue without facts simply shows yours and bacons ignorance. Bacons tagline as was his other one shows who is the closet racist. He took the other tagline off his post when others started complaining, but like any good little closet racist he/she just can't help shining a light on them self.

Thanks to both of you for keeping the cockroaches of progressivism in the light.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

(I is?) How many minorities are members of the Tea Party? (Facts please) Having more pigmentation in ones skin does not make one 'BLACK'. (Note John Boehner) It is important that minorities are represented in both parties in our democracy. (I was made aware of what the Gadsden Flag meant to the person who carried it and the Confederate Flag as they spit on me - but that was years ago - and hopefully does not mean the same today, but minorities are not convinced that a transformation has occurred.) Herman Cain is a brilliant Black man who expresses his views artfully - but his narrative represents his views - not the Black community – a community that does not yet trust the sincerity of the Tea Party movement. Most Tea Party concerns represent the concerns of the majority of the American people - there is no denying that. It is the separatist/segregationist ideas that keep popping up in the rhetoric that keeps minorities at bay. You should inform yourself beyond the 'right' agenda - you don't have to agree with the 'facts' - but at least be aware of them, and how others perceive them! Those who were successful in their elections had other than just Tea Party support. . . and there are Tea Party groups that do not support those who carry the Confederate Flag. Don't Tread On Me = States Rights. Back in the day - the right to keep my people in slavery. It is a shame that a flag with such historical meaning to us as a nation and to our military would be/is used to express the right of states to deny others their rights. (Improper use by hateful individuals) The Gadsden Flag is not a symbol that encourages my participation in an organization. I have met Black people with your 'right' views. Keep your principles - but don't allow your presence to be a facade to acceptance of all races. . .there are Tea Party groups who support racism. (That's a fact!) Another FACT - not all Tea Party groups are racist.

Observerofu's picture

Addendum: DM Said: "Having more pigmentation in ones skin does not make one 'BLACK'."

So here we are. In order to be Black in America you must first be judged to be Black enough. No not from a White person but by the Black community. For someone who "CLAIMS" to be so for civil rights and not for any type of bigotry. You just exemplified the worst in all of us. To judge not on the Character of a person but on the color of that person. Seems the only one here that harbors a bigoted idea is you and not the Teaparty.

You did not address a single question I address to you.
You say "It's a FACT" that there are Teaparty groups that support Racism but yet again you offer no proof other that your say so. Are you the foremost authority on that subject or is this just more hateful rhetoric?

You have been hung up on race since the day I first started posting here. Race should NEVER be an issue. The Teaparty movement goes beyond the race spectrum and the false premise of the racist dialectic.

You do know that Alveda King is supportive of the Teaparty right. The last time I checked she is pigmented enough for your acceptance and I believe she has some acquaintance with the Civil rights issues.

I may have a mixed heritage but does that not make me pigmented enough for you? Are we really going there?

You remember Obama is of mixed race. Apparently he is pigmented enough for you.

I am so glad the rest of America does not harbor such bigoted feelings as yours and bacon's.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

FYI. In 2005I joined this discussion with the express purpose of discussing 'race' and diversity. I was met with a view that I had never been exposed to before - a definite view against 'diversity' as had been experienced in this state - and an almost hateful view of 'blacks'. Over the past six years - from discussion - minds may not have been changed, but at least others have been exposed to different experiences regarding race and diversity. 'Race' is an issue in this country - like it or not - that is a sad reality. It is a sign of progress that members of our families are able to articulate their individual views - and a relative of the Kings has that right just like the rest of us. There are very few Americans, especially in Georgia, that do not claim 'mixed' heritage of one culture or another - that is what makes us Americans. Our DNA should not and DOES NOT determine our social/political views. It is our life experience and our education that determines most of our views. In today's world, you can ascertain 'facts' by just using 'Google' 'yahoo' or 'bing'. Please present your facts - that support your logic. Not difficult to do the research. THERE ARE NOT MANY MINORITIES IN THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT. Check it out! As to your other 'questions' - I see where Bacon called you ignorant. Does he define you - or do your words define you? As to your other questions - sorry, but I didn't see in his response any reference to your family. Was this deleted?

Observerofu's picture

You and others want to show a quota of blacks in the movement. The question is WHY?

Why does it matter. Black Americans make up about 17.5% of America's racial makeup. So if 18% of the Teaparty were black would that make it a non-racist entity? Again I ask WHY?

Does the Black Democrat elected politicians make up 18% of all elected officials?

No they don't. So using your logic one must assume that Democrats are therefore Racist.

How many blacks were presented in this years election by the DNC?

Fewer than a dozen so again your logic dictates that the DNC is Racist. See how silly that is?

The fact is the Teaparty is open to all people. Rather all blacks, some or just a few join is up to us.

The fact is there are more of us then you libs like to admit to. It doesn't fit the rhetoric.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

[quote=Observerofu]You and others want to show a quota of blacks in the movement. The question is WHY?[/quote]

First and foremost, we ask this question because we like to watch you squeal in indignation and jump through the most convoluted hoops to avoid answering that question.

Secondly, and more importantly, you and the Tea Party have a long, rich history of exaggerating both the depth of your membership and the degree of acceptance in the community. You want us to take this "on faith". Most rational people realize that the Tea Party is little more than a small but nonetheless very vocal group of over-50 white middle class men with an overdeveloped sense of privilege.

The sad reality is that numbers-wise, there are very, very few non-whites in the Tea Party as an overall percentage of membership. How few? We don't know, tea party organizations refuse to disclose this information. Thus, we're at a stalemate, leaving blowhards such as yourself to use "weasel words" (such as "plenty of coloreds" and "lots and lots of blacks") and anecdotal evidence ("but...but...Herman Cain!").

Observerofu's picture

by now you are probably a master at baiting. ;-O

Unlike you I have personal knowledge of the Teaparty's varied membership. Also unlike you race is not an issue for us. Only liberals and progressives pretend to be race neutral when in reality it is all you care about.

MLK would not recognize the Democratic party today. You care more about the color of one's skin then the character of their soul.

You see bacon we have already peeked in your closet "buddy" and it pretty scary and dark.

Sad, an old tired useless radical from the 60's who can't seem to be relevant anymore except here and not very at that.

You going to attempt to insult my family now? Call my daughter a crack whore? Come on show us all again what a class act you really are.

America spoke on Nov 2nd there bacon "old" boy. You can either deal with it or not I for one could not care less.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

NUK_1's picture

There's obviously a lot of women involved in TP, including recent candidates, some of whom actually won. South Carolina not only has a governor heavily endorsed by the TP, but she's also a Sikh which made history. Rising star Marco Rubio doesn't look like some 50-ish white dude to me either.

The Tea Party doesn't have a "long and rich history" of anything yet. While I think the media has overstated all things TP this year, they certainly had an impact in the elections. Everything else that happens going forward is kind of unknown at this point, and the TP can then be judged in a clearer focus over time. If they keep funding and backing very dumb and flawed candidates like an Angle, Palin or O'Donnell or go down the Moral Majority road, they'll fade away quickly. If they find some more serious candidates like a few that just got elected in big races and are certainly "talking a good game" so far, they could become a real force.

PTC Observer's picture

Your postscript

"Tea Party: The GOP outreach program for the special-education set. Now with more fascism!"

You do realize that fascist ((National Socialist German Workers' Party, NSDAP) were in fact socialist? Following the last world war the "progressives" were very adept at obscuring this fact and somehow attributing "conservatives and right wingers" with fascism. They did this primarily through public education.

The fact is Hitler was first and foremost a progressive socialist (progressive).

Just for the record, you may want to take that last bit off your insult to the Tea Party. (I am not a member by the way)

[quote]The fact is the Teaparty is open to all people. Rather all blacks, some or just a few join is up to us.[/quote]

Why don't you quit while you're still making just a little sense? Who is this 'us' who determines how many 'blacks' join the Tea Party? This is America - and we do have freedom of 'choice' regarding our politics. The fact is - you have less than the 11 or 12% of blacks that populate our country. There are Latinos who have made a choice not to join. Many blacks have made a choice not to join. MANY WHITES HAVE MADE A CHOICE NOT TO JOIN. Both parties are losing 'joiners' due to major distrust of the ethics of politicians - regardless of 'color'. Many here can read the reports on membership of Tea Party groups; many here noted the attendance at Tea Party functions; many here noted the diversity at the inauguration and the John Steward 'rally'. What all Americans are hoping for is a Congress that will work for the American people. . .regardless of political party.

Observerofu's picture

The US is minorities. It is up to US to decide what is best for US not the democrat party not the republican party not you or anyone else. The problem is and has been to many of US have allowed a party to dictate to US how we will live our lives.

That is changing. Slowly but surely. The black vote creep is moving away from the democrats and as more of US move into the middle and upper class we see where the massive taxation and spending is getting US.

Does that help? You see unlike you I don't hang my blackness out like a flag.

My personality is in my works not my color.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

Minorities in this country are composed of <strong>individuals</strong> who make their decisions based on their experiences - past and present. I am extremely proud of my blackness, my heritage, and my accomplishments. I will wave my flag as long as I can! (As do 'whites', Latinos, Asians, and 'others') We are Americans - striving to learn how to live with one another as well as with the rest of the humans on this planet. My color is an important part of who I am in these United States. No American should ever deny who they are - or try to 'fit in' by denying who they are. What organization are you working with to fulfill your goal for 'minorities'? In Georgia, the separation of 'race' among our political parties has become painfully apparent. There is a multi-racial group that is identifying the underlying causes for this occurrence in 2010 - and working to take steps for Georgians and Americans to stop this return to self-segregation. (After all – Georgia, in my view, has made remarkable progress in race-relations since 1965.) There are good Americans in both parties of different races and genders who are in sync with the goals of ‘minorities’. I don't think there are many 'white' readers of this discussion who would 'deny' their 'whiteness' - nor should they!! RACE HAS BEEN AN ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY SINCE IT'S FOUNDING. We as individuals have varied experiences as Americans. We are living in a period where the younger generation is exposed through the arts to the varied experiences of Americans of a different color. A wise aunt told us that we should never allow one party to take our vote for granted . . . however, circumstances have allowed this to happen. One important lesson that minorities have learned in this country - is that it takes action on all levels to institute change. It is up to US (your identification of minorities) to be prepared to assume the responsibility of American citizenship by using all of our skills to the best of our ability; working hard for our family and community; supporting our fellow countrymen. Is this different from the goal of any ‘main stream’ American? There are other ‘minority’ contributors in this discussion who do not focus on ‘race’ – five years ago I announced that my participation was to focus on ‘race’. . .and that is what I do. I also share my opinion on other subjects – from my unique point of view. There are MANY women and blacks that do not share my point of view. My point of view is based on my personal experience – as is yours.
Thanks for your explanation. I do not agree with your view of the 'black' vote and the 'creep' of movement of the 'black' middle class away from the Democratic Party. The 'talented tenth' in the Black community is well aware of their responsibility to the 90% of the community that is still experiencing the result of Jim Crow; inadequate educational opportunities; lack of jobs, etc. Taxation without representation is not unknown to the Black community. I congratulate you on your political stance - but you nor I speak for the Black community. . .only for ourselves.

Observerofu's picture

DM you have to remember you started this thread with the claim that the TEAPARTY or at least some are racist. Then you scoffed at the minorities in the teaparty.

I just wanted a little proof is all. Since I too just so happen to be part of that minority that apparently is not in the teaparty I was curious of yours and bacons evidence.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_kmnew/is_200411/ai_n8596507/

btw- the Black creep-It began there DM. Many of us see the democrats talking a good game but it seems every time a black man or woman steps up to the plate the good ole democrat party would rather we just sat back down. It took a Republican to move us from the backstage to the bright lights. Many of us will remember.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

You take a report from 2004 - and a comment by Ms.Brazile to justify your logic?

[quote]btw- the Black creep-It began there DM. Many of us see the democrats talking a good game but it seems every time a black man or woman steps up to the plate the good ole democrat party would rather we just sat back down. It took a Republican to move us from the backstage to the bright lights. Many of us will remember.[/quote]

Today is 2010 - and the 'creep' never materialized. Many of us were/are aware of Ms. Rice's brilliance - and were thrilled when she was named as Secretary of State. You have a right to your opinion - but many of us saw what the Republicans did to Colin Powell. Many of us saw what the Republicans did to John McCain - trying to intimate that his 'black' daughter was from an illicit relationship. Many of us are watching closely as the Republicans try to figure out what to do with Michael Steele. Ms. Rice, like many women and minorities is Conservative - but she too is weary of the racist rhetoric that has been seen at Tea Party rallies - and she also has been made aware of the ignorance that has been expressed on many social networking sites. You are entitled to your viewpoint - but you haven't changed mine nor I yours. Have a great weekend.

Observerofu's picture

"Ms. Rice, like many women and minorities is Conservative - but she too is weary of the racist rhetoric that has been seen at Tea Party rallies"

Care to share proof of that one as well?
Or is this more of your homilies, hyperbole and suppositions?

I guess Clarance Thomas name means nothing. I guess Ms Rice saw nothing but support from the dems? Ummm huh ok.

You might want to read this before you post this again.
http://votingfemale.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/lefts-racists-attacks-again...

"A tea party supporter running against House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., Lollar says he's finding support in unexpected places.

The 38-year-old U.S. Marine Corps reservist recently walked into a bar in southern Maryland decorated with a Confederate flag. It gave his wife Rosha pause.

"I said, 'You know what, honey? Many, many of our Southern citizens came together under that flag for the purpose of keeping their family and their state together,'" Lollar recalled. "The flag is not what you're to fear. It's the stupidity behind the flag that is a problem. I don't think we'll find that in here. Let's go ahead in."

Once inside, they were treated to a pig roast, a motorcycle rally — and presented with $5,000 in contributions for his campaign."

"WASHINGTON, DC — The Independent Women’s Forum today denounced as blatantly racist several editorial cartoons featuring Dr. Condoleezza Rice, National Security Advisor and President Bush’s nominee for Secretary of State. These cartoons clearly draw upon centuries of deep-rooted, wicked and indefensible portrayals of black women.
“The depiction of Dr. Condoleezza Rice by Jeff Danziger, Pat Oliphant and Garry Trudeau as an ebonics speaking, big-lipped, black mammy who just loves her ‘massa’ is a disturbing trend in editorial cartoons,” said Michelle D. Bernard, senior vice president of the Independent Women’s Forum. “These cartoons take the racism of the liberals who profess respect and adoration for black Americans to a new level. It is revolting.”"

<strong>Like my tag line says: Annoy a liberal-Use facts and logic</strong>

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt"
-Samuel Adams
Illegitimi non carborundum

just entertaining. Good night, pleasant 'conservative' dreams. I am pleased that you feel loved and respected by those who share your beliefs . . . so do I. However - not all Americans truly embrace us for us. Ms. Rice has earned the respect of the American people. Read her book - you may find it enlightening. She is a brilliant pragmatist - whose parents loved her and taught her pride, integrity, and a drive for excellence in all that she did. Calling all liberals racist is going over the top - don't you think? I have never stated nor do I think that all conservatives are racists. Anyway - good night. (your facts from Fox News and other right media does not change the perception and distrust that many minorities in this country have of the Republican/Conservative Party.

Pages

Ad space area 4 internal

Government

The Peachtree City Recreation & Special Events Department is looking for about four residents to serve on a committee to evaluate the interest and potential viability of a splash park or spray

Sponsored Content

Opinion

In my last article I raised the question of whether it was necessary to remove God from public discussion in order to have a free, pluralistic society.

Community

In conjunction with the 50th anniversary commemoration of the Vietnam War, the State of Georgia wants to honor every one of its 234,000 Vietnam War veterans.

Sports

The Hurricane Junior Golf Tour traveled to Senoia June 6-7 for the Canongate Series #4. The Canongate Seminole Course played excellent host to two very competitive rounds of junior golf.

Lifestyle

Almost 30 people took to the path at Newnan Utilities Carl Miller Park June 27 for Piedmont Newnan Hospital’s Walk with a Doc, led by Dr. Tia Guster, Piedmont OBGYN.