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R.I.P, Boy Scouts

“What good is it for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul?” (Mark 8:36)

It’s a sad day for both Scouting and for freedom. Indeed, it’s a sad day for America. The century-old Boy Scouts of America (BSA) – created in 1910 to “prepare young people to make ethical and moral choices over their lifetimes” – has betrayed its own constituency, mission, oath and law.

Last Thursday, approximately 1,400 adult BSA delegates from around the country gathered in Texas and decided, in a disgracefully lopsided vote, to welcome into its ranks, “open and avowed” homosexuality (boy-on-boy sexual attraction and behavior), thereby disavowing the “morally straight” Scout Oath its members are sworn to uphold.

They voted unwisely.

History will reflect that on this day the BSA turned from morally straight to immorally bent – that this once great organization – founded on “honor,” “reverence” and biblical morality – was crushed beneath the worldly weight of pagan idolatry.

Whereas, for over a century, millions of boys have raised their right hands, swearing “on my honor” to “do my duty to God and my country” – on this day, hundreds of adult delegates likewise raised their right hands, shook their fists at God and flipped their middle fingers at both the boys they serve and the parents who trusted them.

While endeavoring to “gain the world,” this once honorable institution has forfeited its soul.

Scripture admonishes: “The wages of sin is death.” (Rom. 6:23). This was a catastrophic miscalculation. It was sin, and, tragically, through this sin, the BSA has now effectively sealed its own fate. It has set into motion its own demise.

Even by its own estimates, BSA leadership admits that the decision will likely result in a mass exodus from Scouting. They anticipate that as many as 400,000 Scouts and Scouters will leave the organization (acceptable casualties in the war on morality, I guess). Still, as devastating as this number is, it too represents a gross miscalculation.

Consider, for instance, that when Canada’s version of the Boy Scouts voted in 1998 to welcome open homosexuality, its membership rolls plummeted by over half in just five years, forcing camp closures, staff layoffs and huge budget cuts.

Looking north of the border for clues, then, we can expect that, with current membership at around 2.6 million, it’s more likely that roughly 1.5 million Boy Scouts and troop masters will walk.

Then again, we’re talking about “progressive” Canada. This is the good ol’ USA. With over 61 percent of Scouts, Scouters and parents opposing the homosexualization of Boy Scouts, and over 70 percent of U.S. Scout groups sponsored by churches and religious organizations, it’s not unreasonable to expect that defections will even exceed this estimate.

In short, BSA’s betrayal may well result in near-total ruin. The wages of sin is death.

Here’s the reality: Reality has not changed. Objective truth did not suddenly and miraculously reverse itself on May 23, 2013. As BSA has always acknowledged (until Thursday), homosexual behavior remains empirically disordered and immoral. The only thing that has changed is politics.

Ultimately, this decision had nothing to do with “tolerance” or “inclusivity.” Neither did it concern the best interests of the boys who make up Boy Scouting.

Instead, this decision was rooted in pure evil. It had everything to do with money. “For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs” (1 Timothy 6:10).

And wandered from the faith they have.

Now come the many griefs.

Really, three things drove this decision: Fear, greed and politics. A number of high-dollar corporate donors threatened to pull funding from BSA if they maintained the existing policy on sexual morality. Additionally, a number of extremist pressure groups, aided by a sympathetic left-wing media, brought tremendous pressure to bear.

But the pressure’s not going away. The BSA made a critical error in judgment. It showed weakness. This has only whipped these radicals into a heightened frenzy.

Within moments of the “gay” announcement, Nancy Pelosi called the move “an important first step.” The Human Rights Campaign demanded “the new policy doesn’t go far enough,” and Mother Jones, a liberal online publication, posted an article titled, “Boy Scouts: You Can Be Gay Until You’re 18.”

Sin is never satisfied. The homofascist thirst for absolute affirmation is unquenchable.

What’s the next step? Activists now demand that adult men who desire sex with other males (“gay” scout masters) be allowed to take your sons camping overnight. Soon they’ll be insisting that “transgender boys” (girls who wish they were boys) be allowed to join as well.

What a camping trip. Imagine the pup tent. Your son and Jimmy – who’s got a crush on him – along with Billy and Billy’s boyfriend Bobby, all snuggly warm in the middle of nowhere. But make room for Sammy (formerly Suzie) and Sammy’s boyfriend Gary (formerly Gertrude).

Don’t forget to hang the disco ball.

And “always be prepared.”

You think there won’t be new membership stagnation? Who wants to sign their boy up for the “Gay Scouts”? What’s a kid gotta to do to earn his “tolerance badge”?

Parents, you might want to get out while the gettin’s good. As one Eagle Scout told me, “I’m not leaving the Boy Scouts, the Boy Scouts left me.”

It’s only a matter of time until BSA caves on these demands as well. They’ll admit “gay” men and girls soon. They have no choice. Now that they’ve opened the door, they’ve waived the only legal defense they once had: religious and moral conviction.

But here’s the good news. I and dozens more will be convening for a coalition meeting of pro-family leaders next month in Louisville, Ky., to discuss the creation of a moral alternative to the Boy Scouts. Nature abhors a vacuum. We intend to fill it.

Still, until then, please join me as we mourn the loss of this once honorable organization. The Boy Scouts of America: Born Feb. 8, 1910 – Died May 23, 2013.

May it rest in peace.

[Matt Barber (@jmattbarber on Twitter) is an attorney concentrating in constitutional law. He serves as Vice President of Liberty Counsel Action.]


Mr. Barber: I could not disagree with you more. As the father, brother and son of Eagle Scouts and a fourth generation Scout with more than 55 years of participation(and proudly an Eagle), I totally reject your statements.

Scouting has long been the bastion of acceptance EXCEPT in this area. Experience throughout the world has shown that your fear mongering is, imagine that, fear mongering. Additionally, your logic is both flawed and juvenile. You state "Instead, this decision was rooted in pure evil. It had everything to do with money." This was preceded by your "Consider, for instance, that when Canada’s version of the Boy Scouts voted in 1998 to welcome open homosexuality, its membership rolls plummeted by over half in just five years, forcing camp closures, staff layoffs and huge budget cuts." I am not going to waste my time with your invalid statistics, only your logic. Funding for Scouting in America has long been proportional to Scouting population. If acceptance of gay Scouts causes defections, then where is financial benefit???

Now, if you wanted to make your argument correctly you would have noted that the Boy Scouts of America has been losing Scouts at a record pace dropping from approx. 2.78 million in 2010 to approx. 2.66 in 2012 while Canada has remained constant across that time at approx. 101,000. At a very shallow statistical level, it seems to me that accepting gay Scouts in Canada has improved its situation and that BSA has the membership problem. By the way, Scouts Canada has steadily expanded since 2008 while BSA has shrunk.

In 1910 James West, the first Chief Scout Executive and handicapped individual, made it clear that Scouting accepted all boys - race, color, creed and ability. Your comments are not about Scouting values, but a LACK of Scouting values. Scouting is returning to its roots of tolerance and acceptance.

I am a proud Scout. I close by saying that Scouting has revealed its soul and I am glad. In the same time it "outing" all of the bigots.



LessThan3PTC's picture

Mr. Barber, your prejudice is disgusting.

albion's picture

Well said. Equality has only one meaning.

"All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain

PTC Observer's picture

As an attorney concentrating on Constitutional law, I suppose you have run across the notion that people have the freedom to assemble? Which by extension includes the freedom to associate with who they want to associate. So, it should come as no surprise that you have the freedom to not associate with the Boy Scouts. The Boy Scouts are no less honorable today than they were on May 22nd. They are more inclusive by a vote of their members. This means that there will be those that choose not to associate with the Boy Scouts, I assume you will be one of these people.

You sir, don't believe in freedom of association. However, by the grace of God you have the right not only to your expressed opinion but your right to form your very own Guy Scout organization. It's protected by the Constitution, good luck.

Just wow....

Some folks are VERY insecure.

Liferfrom65's picture

And we expect this reaction to Christian values. We are very secure in these values.

S. Lindsey's picture

.... that I will ever give. I have the Freedom to chose whom I give my time and money to. The BSA has seen the last dollar and the last hour from me...

"Whoever claims the right to redistribute the wealth produced by others is claiming the right to treat human beings as chattel."

-Ayn Rand

"And we expect this reaction to Christian values. We are very secure in these values."

Scouting and, more specifically, Boy Scouts of America is not and has never been a Christian organization. BSA celebrates religion choosing to honor its religious freedom through the more than 170 religious awards from African Methodist Episcopal to Zoroastrian. This is not to say that Christian churches have not been one of the greatest supporters of BSA, but a closer look at BSA and you would have realized that it is one of the most inclusive organizations in America. To wit:

Section 1. Declaration of Religious Principle, clause 1. The Boy Scouts of America maintains that no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God. In the first part of the Scout Oath or Promise the member declares, “On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law.” The recognition of God as the ruling and leading power in the universe and the grateful acknowledgment of His favors and blessings are necessary to the best type of citizenship and are wholesome precepts in the education of the growing members. No matter what the religious faith of the members may be, this fundamental need of good citizenship should be kept before them. The Boy Scouts of America, therefore, recognizes the religious element in the training of the member, but it is absolutely nonsectarian in its attitude toward that religious training. Its policy is that the home and the organization or group with which the member is connected shall give definite attention to religious life.

I an further secure in my belief that BSA is correct in my knowledge that Jesus The Christ chose to touch the Leapers even if many of today's Christians choose not to.

".... that I will ever give. I have the Freedom to chose whom I give my time and money to. The BSA has seen the last dollar and the last hour from me..."

And rightly so. This is America and you have always had the freedom to vote with your pocketbook and your feet.



Busy Bee's picture

Thank you BobbyBiplane for demonstrating the true values of scouting by speaking up. My husband, his brother, and both of my sons are all Eagle Scouts, and you are absolutely correct that the BSA is and always has been one of the most inclusive organizations in America.

NUK_1's picture

Totally agree with you and your opinions in this discussion. I think you've done Scouting proud here with your viewpoint.

I am waiting to hear from MajorMike who is also an Eagle and has been involved a long time with BSA. I respect that man and it would be interesting to hear from him on this issue.

I am also with Matt. God does not approve....if you wish to know what He thinks about the Old Testament when He was making the rules....I also do not not is disgusting and think otherwise is to offend any common sense one is born with....

[quote=fayettehuntman]I am also with Matt. God does not approve....if you wish to know what He thinks about the Old Testament when He was making the rules....I also do not not is disgusting and think otherwise is to offend any common sense one is born with....[/quote]


I, and BSA, seem to stand with His New Commandment though the words of The Christ, "... Love one another." I do not see where there is any room for misunderstanding this Commandment.




RKS's picture

Shame on you for writing this article. I don't think Jesus would be at all proud of you for your narrow minded and judgmental point of view.

[quote]People oppress what they fear.[/quote]

That statement has proven true since time began/and history was recorded.

kcchiefandy's picture

...he would be proud for Mr. Barber upholding his Father's guidance:

•Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."
•Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"
•1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
•Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

Please note that there's more than just homosexuality that is taboo...just so you know I'm not being judgemental...

or just the parts that suit your stance?

Do you believe in killing Blasphemers? Adulterers? Female Sorcerers? How about people that work on Saturday? How about women who have sex before Marriage? How does that one suit you?

Let's get real and see how many of those you also believe in.

Jesus Christ came to the world to give new commandments and direction - called Christianity. Evidently these 'abominations' were occurring during Biblical times - and those who wrote The Bible felt they were handling it in the correct way to preserve the health and safety of mankind. Lev. 20:13 definitely contradicts one of the 10 Commandments - Thou Shalt Not Kill. In the United States, we have the freedom to act on our religious beliefs as we please.The Bible also states that those who exhibit drunkenness, excessive celebration(parties), shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Jesus demonstrated that our spirit can control our actions - and if our spirit practices 'Love your neighbor as you love yourself' our actions will be better than previous actions by mankind. Just my opinion. Glad I live in a country where I have a choice to practice my religious beliefs as I choose. I'm proud of the BSA!

kcchiefandy's picture

...but Jesus didn't give us new Commandments, did he? I believe those are in Exodus & Deuteronomy, of the Old Testament. He did bring a better way (IMHO) to deal w/ sin & sinners, but not the end result of their refusal(s) to follow God's Law.

I'll ignore Spyglass's post because their predictable response has been beaten to death on here, but will nonetheless repeat some in a short reply here: yes, I would try to follow all of God's directives if we did not have our Constitution and subsequent State laws, US Codes, etc...that prevent many of the more extreme acts mentioned in the Old Testament, some 2,000-4,000+ years ago, and upon greater review over the ages became implausable, and as DM said to preserve the health & safety of mankind. Of course, also, many Americans are not Christain, so this arguement is a moot point for them.

If we DID follow all those practices, we'd certainly get along better with some of our global Islamic friends who follow strict religious law; I'd love to cut the hands off of thieves or behead some murderers!

As we say here in the good 'ol USA - ignorance of the law is no excuse!

NORMAN ROCKWELL gave us the gift of a beautiful painting showing the religions of the world which follow the Golden Rule - Do Unto Others - The Old Testament is the basis of the Jewish religion. Jesus respected the teachings found in those writings - but showed mankind that without LOVE, problems were not being solved. Love one another works - if we could just implement that as Jesus did.

The Beatitudes:

This is what Jesus gave us:

[quote]Blessed are...
...the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (5:3)
...those who mourn: for they will be comforted. (5:4)
...the meek: for they will inherit the earth. (5:5)
...those who hunger and thirst for righteousness: for they will be filled. (5:6)
...the merciful: for they will be shown mercy. (5:7)
...the pure in heart: for they will see God. (5:8)
...the peacemakers: for they will be called children of God. (5:9)
...those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (5:10)
Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.[/quote]

kcchiefandy's picture

...thank you for reminding me of the Beatitudes! As I said, a better way to deal with us sinners!


To say the least. Well at least you can say the good old US saves you.

A theoacracy scares me big time.

RKS's picture

Leviticus 20:10 - And the man that committeth adultery with [another] man's wife, [even he] that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Really, it's pointless to start quoting the Bible. I know plenty of people who have gotten divorces and remarried. Lot's of quotes against that as well. Do we need to set up an execution chamber?

Really, let's not go down this path.

kcchiefandy's picture read my post below.

It is always interesting how some people choose those bible verses/commandments that suit their purpose yet do not live by all the others. I wonder if Mr. Barber goes to the grocery story or movies, mows the lawn, etc., on the Sabbath? If married, do they use birth control(sinful to spew your seed on the ground??) Some religions believe it is sinful to wear jewelry or cut your hair---there are so many different beliefs and they all tout Bible verses/commandments to strengthen their arguments. I personally have no problem with anyone using these verses/commandments to back up their beliefs; where the problems come in is when they pick and choose which verses they quote to back up their positions and which verses or commandments they conveniently forget or overlook as they go about their daily life.
Matt, unless you live by each and every other commandment/Bible verse, how do you choose which ones you should abide by?

RKS's picture

I couldn't have said it better. I bet there are plenty of men who married women who were not virgins...that's a death sentence right there.

MajorMike's picture

Thank you for your kind words, but actually, while my three sons are Eagle Scouts, I am not. I achieved 1st class rank in 1959 shortly before our Scout troop became a casualty of a split in the church that was the chartering organization of that troop.

It has been my honor, my privilege, and my pleasure to be involved in Scouting at the District and Council level for over two decades and I expect to see little, if any, change to the program as a result of the recent decision to include gay youth. Many people are simply afraid of change so the question must be asked; What has changed?

Nothing has changed. <strong>The mission - that has not changed. The need – that has not changed.</strong> Outings - this past weekend we had Troops, Packs and families camping out. This week we have thousands of young people, future leaders, preparing camps for the Scouts that will arrive this week. Troops today are preparing for summer camp. Jamboree Troops are preparing for shakedowns. Scouting has always about teaching moral behavior to all boys, and instilling the core values that are part of responsible adulthood.

Many religious denominations, including the Catholic Church and the Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons), have already endorsed the change while others are yet resolving issues of doctrine versus issues of faith.

Although virtually every headline following the BSA’s decision on May 23 discussed the inclusion of gay members in Scouts, “what has been largely missing from the mainstream media coverage of all the lobbying, placard waving and rhetoric” is the “reaffirmation of principle, plainly restated in the [BSA] Membership Standards Resolution".

The resolution may be viewed in its entirety here: While it may not be wordsmithed perfectly, it does not promote or endorse a gay lifestyle.

Scouting is <strong> not about sex or sexual preference,</strong> it is about values and responsibility. The opportunity of Scouting has always been and remains today ..... for all boys.

Yours in cheerful service.

Michael Jerrell

It is people like you who will see that scouting continues as it has for lo, these many years. It is a wonderful experience for young men and a great opportunity to learn many things they may not have learned otherwise. I was in the Girl Scouts many, many years ago and still remember the great times we had and the things we learned. I have never forgotten our motto and never will. Thank you again for your post.

NUK_1's picture

Very eloquent and poignant post. Of course, I happen to totally agree with you too :)

I apologize for being late, I have been traveling.

Thank you to all of those with comments. It is gratifying to see the number of folks who support Boy Scouts of America's policies of inclusion as being both right and appropriate. As there are still folks with honest disagreement, it also shows the work still needed to be done in America to increase acceptance of differences. BSA can lead the way in this debate.



Agreed that people should not be judged by color of their skin, religion or sexual preference.
Boy Scouts develop leaders of men! and leaders come in many colors, practice different religions and have difference sexual orientations.

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