Ya know what? You're 100% right on this assessment, It was a poorly chosen Analogy, I can do better and will make future efforts to do so...
A 99 year old Man known to walk around town with a $5,000.00 cash on him is robbed, yet some will Blame the 99 year old Man ......
How's that ? lol
Under CURRENT GEORGIA LAW (if the person is lawfully able to posses a firearm) they may transport a Firearm ANYWHERE in their vehicle, as an Automobile is considered an extension of ones HOME.
A Lawful person may carry a pistol in their car, under the seat, in the Glove box in a center console in a pocket behind a seat etc etc etc (If pulled over the driver MUST inform the Officer of said weapons and follow the officers lawful orders regarding said firearm,, don't believe me,,call the Sheriff 770 461 6353
(If a facility is "Weapons Free" ya better not have one in the car)
Rape is not about the youth or attractiveness of a women. It is about control and hostility to the victim, not sex. Not a good analogy to use or throw around casually.
You know what? If someone asked me if my car door was locked I would know the answer. Because the answer would ALWAYS be yes. The fact that this gun owner did not know the the answer is an indication that he/she frequently leaves the car unlocked.
I am ANNOYED as hell that there is another gun now held by a thief. It was preventable. Just let me be pissed.
JJ--I think you arnd I are probably more in AGREEMENT than disagreement. You just have memories of other discussions and want to jump at a chance to object to my comments.
You object? now there's a shocker. That you would imply "young ones" are somehow at risk when I'm around, tells me EVERYTHING I could ever need to know about you, I see you are one of those ill equipped to discus an issue, share ideas and thoughts, so you're forced to resort to personal attacks, so be it. have at me, knock yourself out, go for it, At the end of the day Those here that CAN THINK will see exactly what you are, and give your writings the attention your efforts are deserving
Ok, Was the Car legally registered? Was the Car lawfully Parked? Apparently YES to both as there's no mention of the Driver/Owner being arrested or ticketed, Based on this (and yes there is some assumption which I dislike doing) we're compelled to believe this person IS a RESPONSIBLE person. Now to the point at hand, "is it RESPONSIBLE to leave a firearm in a car?" BE VERY CAREFUL how you answer this question.......................................................................................
Law Enforcement Leave Weapons EVERYDAY in their Vehicles, They leave their vehicles unattended sometimes with the Doors open, keys in the ignition and the motor running (foot chases) Why do they do this? are THEY being Irresponsible? ...........................................................................................................
Let's move forward, My question is WHY would a person bother carrying a gun and leave it in the Car? If one of mine leaves the House, it DOES NOT leave my person, but that is BY CHOICE if I were to leave it in the car, YES, I would lock my doors, but you do understand the ONLY thing a Lock Door does is to ensure Honest People Stay Honest, If a Criminal (say someone that enters an automobile and removes property without the owners consent) steals a gun out of a locked or unlocked car, the BLAME rest SOLELY on the shoulders of the CRIMINAL, to yap about anything other than THAT FACT is so disingenuous as to be at the door of absurd
I did not mention Concealed Carry there Einstein. Look Again. Any person can carry in their car. When they are driving it has to be on the seat or in the glove box. It cannot be hidden in any way. If one has Concealed Carry, the rules are different.
Either way, if you carry, concealed or otherwise, you have a basic responsibilty to do so in a way that is reasonable. If you can't then you should carry. Period.
We should spend a fraction of the time that we defend the 2nd Amendment (I do !) in also trying to work out what Responsibilities fall to gun owners.
So...you made a big leap there in your logic.
State of mind has nothing to do with it. And leaving kid in car compared to leaving gun.....I can't begin to understand how you think.
well guess this old boy is selling his house and moving further south on 50 acres of land. Maybe Fayette will not annex me.
Fake Agent 81 and Concealed Carry
The point was and is you don't know if he has a ccw license or not yet your language infers it was a given. People of all walks of life make booboos; you have no idea what state of mind the guy was in at the time. If someone can leave their kid in a car, they can surely leave a gun. Anyway, not YOUR problem as you weave your way through your make-believe Clandestine world!
about like people leaving kids and animals in car.
I object to your casual use of the rape of an 18 year old as an anology (although it does say something about how you think--keep you away from the young ones!)
Here is a better analogy:
An owner of a pitbull trained to dogfight and known to bite is left unsecured at a shopping center.
The dog is unleased by someone to run free in the city.
Citizens riding around on carts and walking the paths have no idea what this dog looks like or where it could be. It's just out there.
Clearly the criminal who let the dog loose has blame. But in your mind: Should the person who left the dog unsecured in the first place be fined? Blamed in any way? or as a person who has a right to be secure in his property (owning a dog) is this just a case of "Oops?"
Really. Are you really standing by that analogy? The owner of the unsecured gun was the innocent victim and the robber was the horrible rapist?
That is what you are sticking with?
Are there no expectations of responsibility for a gun owner under the 2nd Amendment in your mind? None?
Are you one of those people who thinks its "just a mistake" when a five year old finds an unsecured gun and blows his sister away? Oops!
Come on. You just want to pick a fight with me. I have read plenty of your posts. You just didn't think this one through.
With Rights come Responsibilities.
Right to carry has everything to do with it. The law makes no distinction between a trained or responsible gun user and a complete idiot who would LEAVE A GUN IN AN UNLOCKED, UNATTENDED CAR.
Every RIght has it's Responsiblities for legal use. All of them. Except, apparently in your mind, Bearing Arms. I support the 2nd Amendment to bear arms. But that right comes with Responibilities, one of which is "Don't shoot it at strangers without cause" or "Don't point it at people as a joke" or hey how about this one "Don't leave it unsecured."
The time when the 2nd Amendment protects people from any and all irresponsibilities with a firearm NEVER EXISTED.
You say "No problemo!" Really? Do you really take it that way? Then you are perhaps the kind of person who would be so STUPID as to leave a gun unsecured in a car.
Think. Then Type.
This is an issue..Yankees and Left Coasters want what they left instead of enjoying what we have. They stick up their noses at the "speedy pig" and Crooks Grocery and want snooty restaurants and "fresh market" stores. I want a gas station that has ham biscuits and fish bait.
Why can't a developer buy up Wynnmeade and build 400K homes...The homes are really badly built and the neighborhood is so full of renters.
$80k to spend a week in the county listening to the chosen few with agendas, then some lunchtime pizza throwing out ideas, approval from the chosen few, and then produce a video.
Every single city and county official approved this? No one had any concerns, or are they scared to rock the boat?
What businesses are the FCDA coveting?
May the God of all comfort, comfort your family in your times of grief.
Revelation 21:3, 4
OR...Any owner of weaponized breeds be prosecuted criminally under the same laws as mishandling any other dangerous device or weapon. Some breeds were engineered as a weapons and mishandling should be treated as such.
SSM & Dogs
Surely the owners can be cited and possibly the animals declared dangerous and disposed of with consideration of prior problems--if any.
I typed that word BEFORE I read the story,,HELLO?????
The drop dead gorgeous 18 year old in a itty bitty string bikini on spring break gets raped and it's HER Fault.
The LEGAL GUN was in a LEGAL CAR a CRIMINAL commits a CRIME and 81 wants the VICTIM to suffer further by having Human Rights denied to him/her,,,,ya know ya can't even blame Government Education for some of the "just damn" that comes out of some folks heads
that refused to bake a cake for a gay cuople in Oregon? The state forced the bakery to pay a $135,000 in damages.
Pseudo spy 81: What's right to carry got to do with it? Was in his car. No problemo--just an absent-minded act. Maybe lesson learned--maybe not.
I say they should have been fired on the spot!
Will say a prayer for them as well, Mr. Niebes.
- From a fellow Eagle Scout and Ini-to lodge member, Tangitti Machque